Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Black history in Puerto Rico/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 03:35, 28 February 2009.

Black history in Puerto Rico

 * Nominator(s): Cerejota (talk)

I am nominating this for featured article because it meets all the criteria set forth in Wikipedia for featured articles. It is well-written, sourced, illustrated, stable, and a Good Article which has been successfully re-assessed once. It is a significant part of Puerto Rican history, and a great contribution to wikipedia. Cerejota (talk) 00:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. Great content, and I wish you luck with this, but it still needs a lot of work. Can you find a good copy editor to go through this article? Here are just a few random examples of the kind of things that need to be fixed:
 * "They were allowed to live with family in a bohio (hut) on the master's land and was given a patch of land ..." Fixed
 * "... in what became the beginning of the slave trade in the New World." It wasn't really a "new world", just newly discovered (rediscoverd?) by Europeans. Best to avoid the term. Fixed
 * "An official Spanish edict of 1664 offered freedom and land to African people from non-Spanish colonies, such as Jamaica and St. Dominique (Haiti), who immigrated to Puerto Rico ...". Should be "emigrated" to Puerto Rico. Were there also unofficial Spanish edicts?Fixed
 * "It should be noted that the escaped slaves and freedman who immigrated from the West Indies ..." Why should it be noted? Fixed
 * "By the 18th century slaves were no longer branded the method of hot branding was no longer used after 1784." Fixed
 * "The event was also historical because it was the first time that the island would participate as a nation ..." Why "would participate" instead of participated? Fixed
 * "The descents of the former African slaves ...". Descendants? Fixed
 * I suggest that you move the list in Notable Puerto Ricans of African Ancestry to a separate article and convert to prose something about any particularly important people.

--Malleus Fatuorum 00:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. A couple things I came across at quick-glance:
 * The section Notable Puerto Ricans of African Ancestry has no citations. The majority of it should also probably be outsourced to a list, with the most notable people described in prose.
 * Checklinks reports several links that are dead or have connection issues.
 * The majority of the citations are incomplete, not reporting publishers, authors, dates, etc.
 * Why are there two See also sections?

--Eustress (talk) 03:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment, I have just finished copyediting the article. I rcommend that the nomination be placed on hold until after I look into User:Eustress concerns, which should be tomorrow. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that you haven't even started on the work that needs to be done Tony. --Malleus Fatuorum 04:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know it still needs some work. You know sometimes I can't see the most obvious which is under my nose. I feel like a blind man trying to organize a dark room (smile) and I'm sorry about that. What I have done is requested the help of a friend User: SGGH who is a more experienced copyeditor with a few FA's under his belt. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:38, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know about more experienced, but I shall take a crack at it a little now and again after work tomorrow. SGGH ping! 21:04, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment-- The majority of dead links have been fixed. --J.Mundo (talk) 05:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Comments -
 * My first suggestion would be to get your references into order. A number of your website references lack publisher and/or last access dates, which are the bare minimum needed for WP:V. Books need publisher, author, and page number on top of title. I can't even begin to address the reliablity of the sources before that's taken care of.
 * Still a number of deadlinks.
 * Ealdgyth - Talk 12:55, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment
 * The lead has some content issues which remain a little confusing even as a summary, I have left hidden comments on it and copy edited it, hopefully to a good level. SGGH ping! 21:17, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Checklinks reports that are links are working. --J.Mundo (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Numerous image issues. The 3 images from the Smithsonian don't seem valid PD-US-Gov (File:Slavechains.gif, File:Carnival mask.gif, File:Santeria artifacts.gif) per as they restrict commercial use. It is not plausible that File:Navarro.jpg predates 1923, as the article says he started playing baseball after that date (and he'd have to be 18 in that image.) File:Rafael hernandez.jpg likewise doesn't seem to predate 1923, subject would be 31 but look much older in photo. File:DeVillard.jpg does not have a valid fair use rationale as it is used in a gallery and not accompanying any specific text. Removing all these images would fix this, or perhaps changing the license to non-free and adding valid fair use rationales could work for some of them as well. Good luck.-Andrew c [talk] 18:47, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Ref comments -- Errors found with WP:REFTOOLS.
 *  African Aspects of the Puerto Rican Personality, Retrieved July 20, 2007 | Multiple refs contain this content, a named reference should be used instead
 *  African Aspects of the Puerto Rican Personality by (the late) Dr. Robert A. Martinez, Baruch College, Retrieved July 20, 2007 | Multiple refs contain this content, a named reference should be used instead
 *  Santeria, The Orisha Tradition of Voudou: Divination, Dance & Initiation, Retrieved July 20, 2007 | Multiple refs contain this content, a named reference should be used instead
 * Diaz - Multiple references are given the same name
 * Code - Multiple references are given the same name
 * Bio - Multiple references are given the same name
 * Santeria- Multiple references are given the same name-- TRU  CO   22:12, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Sandy Georgia (Talk) 03:40, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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