Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Boletus calopus/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:Ian Rose 10:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC).

Boletus calopus

 * Nominator(s): & Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 17:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Sasata and I are going though a few boletes and nominating for featured article status - timely as we've had a bolete expert join the wiki-fray which has been fantastic. This is a shorter one and we've scoured the sources. Let us know anything we can fix or do better. Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 17:13, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments by Cwmhiraeth
 * Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 * A solid-looking article. A few comments on the prose etc.


 * "found in Asia, Northern Europe and North America." - Is this correct capitalisation?
 * Northern Europe is capitalised apparently. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "... will most likely be placed in a new genus pending further study" - Does not "pending" mean "during"?
 * my meaning is that it will change genus once further study has taken place. I thought "pending further study" was a simple way and accessible way of writing this...? Have substituted "after" but I feel this word doesn't illustrate causation/link quite like "pending" Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * How about "following"? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:25, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oooh, I must say I prefer "following" to "after" but neither capture the "it-hasn't-happened-yet-and-once-it-does-X-will-happen" that "pending" conveys..... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:50, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "...rendered unpalatable by its intensely bitter taste, which does not disappear with cooking." - No comma needed here in my opinion. Same in Toxicity section.
 * disagree - it is an emphatic subordinate clause which relates to the taste Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:37, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "red-pored boletes" - Red-pored?
 * not an official term but merely a descriptor (i.e. boletes with red pores) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought "red" was an error because the pores of this species are in fact yellow, but perhaps it is intended and B. calopus is grouped with a number of red-pored species in a clade. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:25, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Aaah I see - yes there are a bunch of other boletes of similar colours and blue-staining properties and they generally have red pores ( Boletus satanas ,  Boletus luridus  etc.) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:46, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "(named for Boletus dupainii), well-removed from the core group of the type species Boletus edulis " - Why give these binomials in full?
 * abbreviated Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "The attractively coloured stipe" - I thought use of such terms as "attractively" was abjured. (In lead too.)
 * Hmmm, I kinda liked the construction as a succinct way of indicating that it was pretty because it was colourful (which is what the source says). If I just say "colourful" is that sufficient...will ask on this. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:44, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "The pale yellow flesh stains blue when broken, spreading out from the damaged area." - What is spreading out here?
 * the discoloration - clarified Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:14, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "Its smell can be strong, and has been likened to ink." - Is this the smell of the flesh or of the whole bolete?
 * Well, can be either I guess - the source doesn't specify, just says "the scent.." Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Should the varieties be mentioned in the Taxonomy section?
 * they are - but their physical attributes are mentioned in the description section Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:51, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "...but the stipes of latter species are not reticulated." - Perhaps "this species"
 * done Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * "Edible species such as Boletus edulis lack a red stipe." - Why give this binomial in full?
 * I missed it - abbreviated now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)


 * A final query, is this an ectomycorrhizal species? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, and it is now explicitly stated so in the article text. Sasata (talk) 17:57, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Now supporting on prose and comprehensiveness Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Overlooked this, I'll review in next few days  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  12:19, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Support Comments from Jim predictably few problems, but a couple of niggles before I support  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Christian Hendrik Persoon described it in 1801,[6] its specific name derived...—no obvious connection between the two halves of the sentence as written, reads a bit strangely
 * split sentence with a semicolon and changed "'it" to "the mushroom" to make it flow better Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:47, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * cracks in age. —is "in" right?
 * changed to "with" Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * colour/coloration... —this is what happens when a Canadian and Australian collaborate (:
 * britishised Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * has been likened to ink—not sure how helpful that is these days, but does no harm, no action needed
 * yes this puzzled me too - no idea what ink smells like.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Fruit bodies occur singly or in large groups.[20] It grows on chalky ground from—subject of "it" is plural fruit bodies as written
 * Changed "it" to "the species" to break subject - I suppose I could have pluralised it to they as well... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


 * 3-octanol—I'd delink like the other compounds, link goes to 1-octanol, so misleading as it stands
 * delinked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No further queries, supporting now  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  13:46, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Images are all CC, no issues. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:22, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * thx Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:28, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * did you happen to do a source review as well? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Support&mdash;the prose is extremely clear, smooth and tight. The article is fascinating and informative, and the images are very useful. This is the kind of work Wikipedia should be featuring. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  20:32, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Source review - spotchecks not done
 * Be consistent in how editions are notated
 * Are the dates for FNs 2 and 6 unknown?
 * FN7: location? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed; thanks Nikkimaria. Sasata (talk) 03:16, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 14:19, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
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