Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Brett Favre/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 05:17, 29 December 2008.

Brett Favre

 * Nominator(s): User:Pookeo9

I think that this article is in good shape to be a FA and I think its long enough, with enough information about the article. Plus if this becomes a FA I will be happy but if it isnt then I will try again another time.--Pookeo9 (talk) 13:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - The article isn't bad, but it isn't ready for FA. The nominator hasn't made any recent contributions as far as I've seen. ₪ Ceran →(cheer→chime →carol) 14:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * "starting every game from then until his retirement" - remove "from then"?
 * En dash should be hyphen in "three-time". Again in "eight-grader".
 * "He is of French and Choctaw ancestry; one of his paternal grandparents was a Native American affiliated with the Choctaw." The second clause repeats part of the first.
 * "Early life" - merge the paras.

Needs work. Tony  (talk)  14:47, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Question - Have you asked the primary contributors if they think this is ready to come here, per the FAC instructions? Looking at the article, it does have more potential than most so-called "drive-by noms", but Tony is right, as usual. There are some issues with reference formatting and quality, among other things. It does have a good chance to be an FA in the future with some work, though.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 16:23, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Also I can't see a FAC template on the talk page. (talk) 09:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Lead could do with more about his career and less of his stats. BUC
 * Refs #70 and #71 needs entering properly.

I added the missing fac tag. There are numerous MoS issues (see my edit summaries). Sandy Georgia (Talk) 17:47, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Oppose - Three cite tags in the article is an automatic disqualifier for me. As for the reference issues I mentioned above, here's a list of them, though I don't claim to have caught everything.
 * What make the following reliable sources?
 * Ref 1: http://www.misspronouncer.com/packers/favre_brett.html
 * Ref 5: http://www.indianz.com/News/2004/001648.asp
 * Ref 10: http://www.wireimage.com/Celebrities/Brett-Favre
 * Ref 16 and others: http://www.databasefootball.com (Personally, I consider most statistics websites like this one reliable, but that means nothing for FAC purposes.)
 * Ref 24: http://www.treatmentonline.com/treatments.php?id=993
 * Ref 85: http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=764
 * Ref 96: IMDB is not considered reliable for personal information.

Hopefully the nominator will be willing to address these problems and the others. If not, the nomination should be withdrawn.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 21:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Reference 22 appears to have a formatting error, because there is no link for an apparent NFL.com citation.
 * Reference 30 is a 2002 New York Times story. While not essential, an online link would be nice, especially with no page number.
 * References 70 and 71 are bare URLs with no publication information, as Bucs already said.
 * Reference 87 (Favre's statistics at www.packers.com) should have the publisher outside the link.
 * References 55 and 100 lack publishers.
 * References 54, 55, 80, and 86 lack access dates.
 * Inconsistent date formatting in the citations. Some are full (4 March 2008 in reference 2—European date formatting for an American subject?), while most are like reference 1 (2007-11-23).
 * En dashes are used for page ranges, like in reference 9 (2008 Southern Miss Football Media Guide).


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