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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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Broken Sword: The Shadow of the Templars

 * Nominator(s): Khanassassin ☪ 20:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

After what I believe was an unfair non-promotion of Broken Sword 1 last time, I once again bring the article to FAC. Khanassassin ☪ 20:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Comments Not bad, but still a few issues:
 * "In 1994 Cecil and Noirin Carmody met with Sean Brennan, then-head of publishing at Virgin Interactive, and Virgin agreed to publish the game.[9] Despite publishing the PC version Virgin were not interested in publishing the game on the PlayStation, feeling that only 3D games would sell for the console.[10] As a result Cecil contacted Sony Computer Entertainment, who agreed to publish the game for the console.[10]" - too many occasions of "publish", try replacing some (issue, release, etc)
 * Done. --Khanassassin ☪ 21:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)--Khanassassin ☪ 21:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * "humour-based adventure games" - could be simply "humorous"
 * Done. --Khanassassin ☪ 21:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * "Cecil's intention was to make the game more cinematic.[11] Although aiming to design a game with a cinematic feel," - same meaning of both phrases.
 * Fixed. --Khanassassin ☪ 21:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * If possible convert 1 million pounds to US dollar, using convert
 * This should probably remain un-converted, as it was most likely not exactly the same ammount of many, but "circa" million pounds, so the conversion would not necessarily be accurate. --Khanassassin ☪ 21:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a British game. British people were paid British pounds to make it. As such, the production costs should probably be reported in pounds. :) Axem Titanium (talk) 22:41, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * In the first paragraph of Reception, try summarizing what the majority liked on the game
 * Done. --Khanassassin ☪ 21:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Overall looks fine.--Tomcat (7) 20:50, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Support in my opinion the article meets all criterions. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 10:31, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Khanassassin. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Comments from JDC808
 * Done some copy-editing, particularly punctuation issues (I like serial commas). There was also an issue in the lead where "from 2009 to 2012" was at the beginning and end of the same sentence. A couple of typoes as well. Also linked a couple of things for clarity.
 * Reception section, first paragraph. "and it received the award for "Best Quest" from the magazine Quest" The last paragraph has a listing of awards. I'd say make an "Awards" subsection under Reception and put all of its awards/nominations there.
 * Done. --Khanassassin ☪ 12:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Under Legacy>Listings, second paragraph, this is rather random and out of place, "In 2011, remakes of the first two Broken Sword games were downloaded by over four million people."
 * Moved to Reception section. --Khanassassin ☪ 12:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

-- JDC808  ♫  06:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * In the new Awards section, the last sentence is about sales, move it up with Reception (the very end of Reception would probably be okay, just remove "Charles").
 * Done. --Khanassassin ☪ 19:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * You don't have to do this, but I find the "Awards" that are on the Reception box unnecessary since the section includes them. -- JDC808  ♫  18:54, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The section also includes the reviews, I guess we should remove the whole table. :P --Khanassassin ☪ 19:00, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * No, there's a difference. The Reception box tells what scores the reviewers gave. In the section itself, it doesn't say "this reviewer gave this score", it summarizes points of their review. -- JDC808  ♫  19:13, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * The table doesn't say "In 1997, Broken Sword was awarded "Best Quest" by the magazine Quest", but "Quest - Best Quest". :P --Khanassassin ☪ 19:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
 * That's not my point (my point is that it's redundant), but okay. And if you're going to point that out, the other award in the box is repeating what the section says - "Génération 4 awarded it "Best Adventure 1997"" and "Génération 4	Best Adventure 1997" -- JDC808  ♫  19:34, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Support Although I disagree with having the awards also listed in the Reception box (as made evident above this post), the rest of the article is pretty good. My other issues were addressed and fixed accordingly. Other than needing a source spotcheck, I don't see much holding it back. -- JDC808  ♫  23:26, 2 February 2013 (UTC) Support - The alternate title for the US version of the game is not sourced anywhere in the article, I can see ref titles in the references saying it but it isn't in the article content itself. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2013 (UTC) Comment -The ref with this url http://revolution.co.uk/bs1dc/store is a deadlink.--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:36, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * This uses it four times. -- JDC808  ♫  04:47, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry I forgot to get back to you on this. I didn't doubt the name was true, just saying it should be sourced in the article, potentially in the lede since the alternate name isn't used elsewhere. Other than that issue I don't see any problem with supporting this nomination. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:00, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry and another query, Ref 52 appears to be a bullet list containing multiple URLs, is it meant to be doing that? Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:01, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I sourced it in the lead now. And yes, it is meant to be a bullet list to all the "top" lists featuring the Director's Cut; the whole list is included in the Director's Cuts own article. Go ahead and support now! ;) --Khanassassin' ☪ 13:37, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed. --Khanassassin ☪ 21:11, 15 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. All my concerns from previous FACs have been addressed. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Delegate note -- image review? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:07, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There are three images on the article. The first is the cover art, used to identify the work in question. The FUR is extensive and appropriate. The second is a screenshot from the game itself, used to depict the art style of the game as well as some of the characters. Neither of these images are inappropriately large. The third image is a free use image of the creator. All images check out. I believe the use of fair use images has been kept to an acceptable minimum. Axem Titanium (talk) 14:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick review. :) --Khanassassin ☪ 16:19, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Tks Axem. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:02, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 01:07, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
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