Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Brunei/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Ucucha 00:22, 15 January 2012.

Brunei

 * Nominator: Hallows   AG  07:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because it is well written and on my opinion, passes all FA criteria. The article can be considered as important as it is an article about a country. Hallows  AG  07:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Oppose. Welcome to FAC, but I don't think this one is ready. This article has had no reviews other than a quick fail at WP:GAN in September (see the article's talk page). This is the diff since September; a lot of work has been done, but the objections mentioned at the GAN review are still valid, I think. You may want to try a peer review. - Dank (push to talk) 11:40, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was again reviewed in December here and passed all GA criteria. The article is now a GA.-- Hallows  AG  12:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm, you're right, and I've added the quick-failed GAN from December 20 and the promotion 4 days later by an editor with no other experience at GAN (and not much with articles generally) to the talk page. The promotion came after these edits. I recommend submitting the article to WP:GAR for a reevaluation. - Dank (push to talk) 13:04, 14 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose - At least one uncited paragraph and several bare or almost bare URLs. I'm sorry, but it seems your GA review was less than thorough. Also, comprehensiveness-wise, your history section is a little threadbare. Take a look at Indonesia or Canada for examples of FA country articles. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Which is the uncited paragraph? Also, please note that I did not review the article myself-- Hallows  AG  13:16, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * "It was renamed Barunai in the 14th century, possibly influenced by the Sanskrit word varuṇai (वरुणै), meaning "seafarers", later to become Brunei. The word Borneo is of the same origin. In the country's full name Negara Brunei Darussalam, Darussalam (Arabic: دار السلام‎) means "Abode of Peace", while Negara means "country" in Malay." Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, I'm not saying you did anything wrong, only that the GAN process didn't work well in this case, and the article probably doesn't meet GAN standards. - Dank (push to talk) 14:10, 14 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose I'm very sorry about my stance, by I think there are various aspects that could be vastly improved, namely the filling in of footnotes, the addition of alt text. Perhaps more serious is the lack of comprehensiveness -- United States has 10,128 words, whereas this article only has 2,797 words. I suppose there is much to write about Nrunei, but I would've expected the word count to be at least 4,000. All in all, the article had barely scraped through to GA, so there is much more work getting it to the next level. Try hard, though. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 00:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


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