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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 21:41, 26 July 2010.

Central Morocco Tamazight

 * Nominator(s): Mo-Al (talk) 23:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because it is already a Good Article and has been through many peer reviews prepping it for FAC. Mo-Al (talk) 23:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment—no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 06:18, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Source review - A few issues with sources:
 * Double periods with "n.d.."
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 05:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Several references are bluelinked but do not link to their corresponding Bibliography entry
 * See below. Mo-Al (talk) 21:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Minimize the use of tertiary sources
 * I've removed some dubious sources, though there are probably more which could be replaced/removed. Mo-Al (talk) 05:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Need consistent date formatting in references
 * Done. Mo-Al (talk) 15:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ref 36: formatting
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 21:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * A number of refs are missing publisher information
 * Done, though I couldn't ascertain the location of all of the publishers. (Also, this is excepting citation 48 -- the internet archive seems to be having server problems). Mo-Al (talk) 05:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ref 44: according to the site, 2 is the number of speakers, not 5
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 21:25, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ref 47: formatting
 * I've turned this one into an nb, so that should be okay. done Mo-Al (talk) 21:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ref 63: missing information
 * I fixed the ref which was originally number 63 by linking to the Wikisource page on the IRCAM Dahir. Done. Mo-Al (talk) 00:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ref 104: double comma
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 05:07, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Becker is missing publication information
 * Really? The source has "|publisher = James S. Coleman African Studies Center |location = Los Angeles" Mo-Al (talk) 16:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have been clearer. The stuff you just listed is the publisher information. By publication information, I mean volume/issue number and page numbers - the original source is a journal. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. done Mo-Al (talk) 20:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ben-Layashi is missing publisher location
 * Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the journal on hand, and I can't figure out the publisher location from what's available online...Mo-Al (talk) 20:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Bouhjar is missing publisher information
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 20:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Chaker 1996 is missing publisher information
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 16:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Some books are missing ISBNs
 * I've now added ISBNs for all the books (excepting issues of journals). Mo-Al (talk) 02:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Kossmann: double period
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 16:54, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Moustaoui is missing publisher location
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 20:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Peyron is missing publisher information
 * Not sure what to do for this one, since it seems to be an unpublished paper. Mo-Al (talk) 20:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Done -- see below. Mo-Al (talk)


 * Prasse should include the "(French)" notation
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 05:08, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Richards should spell out publisher name
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 16:58, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ross, Souag 2004, and York are missing publisher information
 * Ross: This seems to be an unpublished dissertation. Not sure what I should do. Mo-Al (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Souag: This was from a personal webpage. What would be appropriate to put down under "publisher" and "location"? Mo-Al (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * For these and the one above: is the source self-published? If so, the author is the publisher (although I'll warn you that self-published sources are generally discouraged per RS). Is the source hosted by an educational institution? If so, that institution is the publisher. Nikkimaria (talk) 21:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, that makes it clear. I've put the proper info down for Ross and Souag. I've eliminated Peyron since it was not really a necessary source. Mo-Al (talk) 01:50, 7 July 2010 (UTC)


 * York: I've removed this source since it wasn't necessary and wasn't high-quality. done Mo-Al (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Stoyanova 2008 is missing publisher location
 * done Mo-Al (talk) 21:06, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


 * van Heelsum: publisher formatting. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:59, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the details! I'll try to go through these. By the way, I've already noticed the issue with some non-functioning bluelinks but I can't figure out what's wrong... help would be appreciated. Mo-Al (talk) 05:01, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * You need to add |ref=harv, as I did for one ref in this edit. Ucucha 05:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thanks for your help. Mo-Al (talk) 16:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it appears that Wikipedia doesn't like references with |date=n.d. -- from looking at the page source it appears that my bluelinks aren't working because they are anchor links to things like #CITEREFPeyronn.d., while for some reason the references themselves have ids like #CITEREFPeyron2010. Any ideas? Mo-Al (talk) 16:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Would this work? Nikkimaria (talk) 22:21, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. One trick -- I have to use the harvnb template so parentheses don't display weird. Done. Mo-Al (talk) 01:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

All right, hopefully I've managed to address most of these issues successfully. Mo-Al (talk) 05:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments
 * Lead:
 * "consisting entirely of voiceless consonants do not phonetically contain voiced vowels" - I don't think "voiceless consonent" has been explained; should the article read "contain phonetically voiced vowels"? If not, then I do not understand the phrase "phonetically contain voiced vowels".
 * I've simplified the language here. Mo-Al (talk)
 * Better. I've made a couple of other fixes you might want to check. The "free state" thing still needs fixing. A lay reader will not have a clue what either construct state or free state are. You might even look at whether to drop them from the lead if that makes it more accessible. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:55, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've taken your (latter suggestion). Mo-Al (talk) 05:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


 * "The standard word order is Verb-Subject-Object (with the subject in construct state) but sometimes Subject-Verb-Object (with the subject in free state)". While a link is provided to "construct state", there is no link nor explanation of "free state". There appears to be no wikipedia article on free state in linguistics. As a lay reader, I'm already lost and need some guidance on what is meant here. One option would be to write a short article on free state so there is something to which the term can link.hamiltonstone (talk) 00:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * See above. Mo-Al (talk) 05:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. hamiltonstone (talk) 00:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


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