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Chartered Institute of Public Relations

 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:Ian Rose 10:21, 13 August 2013.


 * Nominator(s): CorporateM (Talk) 00:21, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Article achieved Good Article status nearly one year ago. Since then I have done many GAs and want to step my editing contributions up to the next level. This is a fairly small and simple article on a topic I am knowledgeable on making it an excellent starting point for a future FA contributor. CorporateM (Talk) 00:29, 2 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment, leaning oppose I note that the first 55 years of the organisation's history is accorded one paragraph, and the most recent ten years five paragraphs. Does this really reflect the events in this organisation's history? The 'organization' (sic, given that this is a UK body) and 'Services' sections also seem heavily weighted to recent developments. Nick-D (talk) 07:25, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 * also some informality you wouldn't expect in an encyclopaedia article (don't) and some information could surely be updated (As of 2003 few members...)  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:56, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Oppose on most grounds: 1a/1b/1c/2a/2b. The 65 year history of this organization essentially doesn't appear in this article, and to the extent that it does, it lacks needed context. It seems to have roots in a "Public Relations Officers conference", but what was that? There's no wikilink there, and I can't immediately determine what the "Public Relations Officers" was; is it a predecessor organization? Who founded the IPR? For that matter, what did the IPR do before 1952 (the first date that appears in the highly non-chronological Services section), and to some extent before 1980 (the first date cited for the organization as anything other than a publisher). This lack of historical perspective places an undue weight on recent activities. In general, this article needs more content, better organization, and a lead that summarizes that information. I'm also dubious (but willing to be convinced otherwise) about the heavy use of PRWeek as a reference; the degree to which industry trade mags are truly independent of the companies they report on varies widely between magazines, and I'm not sure where this periodical falls on that scale. In any case, it'd be nice to see references from a wider variety of mainstream publications, especially given the decades of history here. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:56, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Based on your comments, I don't think enough sources exist on the subject to meet the FA criteria. It's a very small article on a less notable organization, which is why I chose it. I'll have to find a larger article to get my FA training wheels on. CorporateM (Talk) 11:53, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Delegate comment -- Unless I hear otherwise from the nominator (or reviewers for that matter), I plan on taking the last comment as a withdrawal request and will archive the nom. Based on my own brief scan it does look to be a reasonably solid GA but not FA-level in terms of detail/coverage. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 14:16, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
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