Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Christmas/archive3


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:Maralia 17:23, 15 December 2008.

Christmas

 * Nominator(s): Luke Farrelly-Spain (talk)

I'm nominating this article for featured article because I feel that the it has have fulfilled the FA criteria, and if not, I think constructive criticism would be useful in helping us to make the article better. Also, it would help Wikipedia get into the festive spirt. User:Luke Farrelly-Spain (talk) 14:50, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - If this passes, I say we put it on the main page 4th of July... &mdash; Ceran '''[  speak  ] 14:54, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, you need an additional sup in your signature. &mdash; Ceran '''[  speak  ] 14:54, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Oppose - sorry, needs serious work. First, barely anything on the birth of Jesus? The "Economics of Christmas" needs expansion, and you need to at least create a section on the Controversy of Christmas, rather than a link. In addition, there are many unreffed paragraphs as well as one and two sentence paragraphs. I didn't even look at the prose. ~ the editorofthewiki  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 15:07, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Oppose
 * A number of your website references lack publisher and/or last access dates, which are the bare minimum needed for WP:V. Books need publisher, author, and page number on top of title. I am concerned by the large number of referencs to the 1911 Catholic Encyclopedia, which is seriously out of date and biased. A number of your references are just numbered links, they need titles formatted, etc. The link checker tool is showing a number of deadlinks. I cannot even begin to think about evaluating the references until they are in a somewhat coherent sytsem. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Further, a number of statments are unreferenced (Examples: "This story is meant to be a reconciliation between traditional religious beliefs and modern day globalization, most notably the iconography of Santa Claus imported from the United States." or "In many countries a representation of the Nativity Scene is very popular, and people are encouraged to compete and create most original or realistic ones. Within some families, the pieces used to make the representation are considered a valuable family heirloom." among many others.) Prose is choppy, with lots of short one or two sentence paragraphs.
 * Changing to oppose based on the prose and referencing issues. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:24, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Oppose - Needs some serious work. References need throughout the article, and the section on controversies is just a link directing to another article! Skinny87 (talk) 15:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment: I have to agree with the above opposers but I want to offer the nominator some help in fixing references. I am actually very busy right now but will go through and try to fix the references later in the week. Also, I was wondering if there might be some more info on Christmas as it is celebrated in different parts of the world. Here in the US, I think we celebrate much differently than those in India or Africa and it might make the page more interesting to expose these differences. I am sorry I don't have a ref to offer but you might try searching googlebooks.  Nancy Heise    talk  17:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close.  Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the  template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Maralia (talk) 17:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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