Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Coalhouse Fort/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 12:38, 21 June 2017.

Coalhouse Fort

 * Nominator(s): Prioryman (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Coalhouse Fort is one of the best preserved Victorian forts in the UK and is a place I've come to know well, both through the literature and on the ground. I wrote this article to provide a comprehensive overview, as part of a personal project to document the Thames forts, and also provided almost all of the images included in it. Hopefully it does the place justice. It became a Good Article nearly two years ago, so with a bit of luck it should also be suitable for consideration as a Featured Article. Prioryman (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Support and comments from Jim
Well-written and comprehensive. I fixed a couple of obvious typos, please check. A few suggestions Jimfbleak - talk to me?  10:40, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * it would be helpful if the Hoo Peninsula were added to the map. It's also the only overlinked article in the text
 * OK, done and fixed the overlinking. Prioryman (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Rifled Muzzle Loader (RML) and Rifled Breech Loader are lower case in their own articles, which I suggest is correct. Depression Range Finder I think is also mis-capitalised.
 * Fixed these. Prioryman (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * en barbette &mdash; explain, or link to barbette
 * I've reworded and linked this. Prioryman (talk) 17:41, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Support with minor comments
(NB: I reviewed at GA if memory serves)
 * I'd expand "pdr."
 * I've done this for the first instance, but "pdr" is the standard abbreviation so I've used this for the subsequent instances. Prioryman (talk) 17:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)


 * "Depression Range Finders" - is the capitalisation correct here under the MOS? Hchc2009 (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Apparently not, so I've changed this. Prioryman (talk) 17:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:59, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Source review from

 * I randomly googled three sentences and nothing showed up except mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no copyright violations - the big red "problem" is a facebook page and looks like someone copied the wikipedia article into the comments.
 * Normally the last source (the leaflet) would be a problem but considering it's just sourcing a description of the path, it's okay, but I'm not sure the information its sourcing is really needed for the article.
 * Otherwise everything looks good. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:10, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Support Comments by Finetooth

 * Very interesting, nicely written and illustrated. I have a few comments and questions, nothing big.


 * General
 * Could you add something about the origin of the name? Why "Coalhouse"?
 * The images need alt text.


 * Lede
 * ¶3 "...and use it for a variety of heritage and educational purposes. It can be visited by the public on regular open days and houses a number of reconstructions, small military museums and open-air displays of military equipment. Funding for its restoration has come from a number of sources..." – Delete "a variety of", "a number of", and a second "a number of" in this sequence? Too vague to be meaningful.


 * Coalhouse Battery
 * ¶1 "to prevent enemies reaching that far down the Thames..." – Reaching that far "up" the river rather than "down"?


 * First Coalhouse Fort
 * ¶1 "In the case of the Coalhouse battery, it was substantially extended..." – Perhaps "expanded" rather than "extended"?
 * ¶1 "Progress was slow due to the marshy ground again causing problems with subsidence and cracking the foundations, as well as the contractor proving unsatisfactory." – A bit awkward. Better might be "Subsidence and foundation cracking related to the marshy ground slowed the work as did problems with the project contractor." Or something like that.
 * ¶1 "The fort was surrounded by a wide water-filled ditch, with a bridge on the west (landward) side providing the only access route." – Flip to active voice? Suggestion: "A wide water-filled ditch surrounded the fort; a bridge on the west (landward) side provided the only access route."


 * Second Coalhouse Fort
 * ¶1 "including the victualling yards..." – Link "victualling yards"?
 * ¶3 "Its final phases of construction were supervised by Colonel Charles George Gordon, who was later to die in the Siege of Khartoum." – Flip to active voice? Suggestion: "Colonel Charles George Gordon, who was later to die in the Siege of Khartoum, supervised the final phases of construction."


 * 19th century
 * ¶2 "The guns were controlled from a Battery Commander's Post situated on the roof..." – Delete "situated"?


 * 1920s to 1940s
 * ¶3 "were installed at the fort's gorge..." – Please briefly explain in parentheses what "fort's gorge" refers to, or link to an explanation.


 * External facilities
 * ¶2 "A corresponding post was located on the Kent shore. A small concrete structure located..." – You could safely delete "located" and "located" without changing the meaning.


 * Current status
 * ¶ "It was purchased in 1962 by Thurrock Urban District Council (now Thurrock Council), who remain its owners to this day." – Flip to active voice? Suggestion: "Thurrock Urban District Council (now Thurrock Council), the current owners, bought it in 1962."


 * That's all. Finetooth (talk) 02:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * , thanks very much for your review. I've made all the changes you suggested. Prioryman (talk) 08:29, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Looks good to me. Switching to support, as noted above. Finetooth (talk) 15:07, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Support. I made a few small edits but have no further suggestions. It is very comprehensive and well written. Moisejp (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 12:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.