Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Control (Janet Jackson album)/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Karanacs 20:44, 10 November 2009.

Control (Janet Jackson album)

 * Nominator(s): The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  12:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because... I spent a great deal of time preparing the article for GA, which passed with relative ease. I believe the article is both comprehensive and well written. The Bookkeeper  (of the Occult)  12:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Comments --an odd name 17:50, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The one linked image (the album cover) lacks alternate text for readers who can't see the image. (The star ratings are fine.)
 * Speaking of images, try to find any other relevant ones (ideally free ones of people involved in the recording, of critics, etc.). Surely there could be one more to illustrate the article body?
 * No dab links or dead external links, which is very good considering the size and number of web citations.
 * Citation date formats are consistent ISO-style. (added on 17:51, 30 October 2009 (UTC))
 * Alt text added. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  22:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and after a minor edit, great. --an odd name 23:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Free images, btw, from that time period are non-existent, and its equally difficult to find non-free images that would actually benefit the article rather than violating WP:FUR. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  23:46, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Very well. --an odd name 23:53, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Pre-comments I sorted out the infobox a bit, but the reviews need to be referenced like all the other citations. See Remain in Light. RB88 (T) 03:36, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  05:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Support - Looks really, really good.  ceran  thor 11:21, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Control is the third studio album by American recording artist Janet Jackson, released on February 6, 1986 by A&M Records, and is widely regarded as the breakthrough album of her career. - run on. Better as ... by A&M records. It is...
 * Her collaboration - Her collaborations
 * Done. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  21:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Support with some nitpicks Sources fine. All-round excellence. Welcome to the high-quality album article club. If only I had a Green Jacket to give out. RB88 (T) 20:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Go through the citations: If a singular page is cited, then it only needs "p." and not "pp."
 * Try and find another review to complete the 10-review limit in the infobox. (User:Andrzejbanas has the Spin guide which may have reviewed it.)
 * The Personnel section needs a citation, usually the album liner notes.
 * Sort the Accolades by year, a couple are out of sync.
 * Done. Thank you for the kind words! The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  07:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Image review - Both images check out. Awadewit (talk) 01:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Support - Very well written. My only quibble is the use of "African American" in the "Release and Promotion" section. It's not a term used outside the US and in a paragraph with copious usage of the word "black" to describe black women, it looks odd. -- EA Swyer Talk Contributions 16:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Adjusted. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  23:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * "The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) first certified Control gold on April 18, 1986, denoting 500,000 units shipped within the United States. Two months later, on June 13, 1986, the album was RIAA certified platinum, denoting 1,000,000 units shipped. The following year [1987, right?], Control was RIAA certified 5x [fivefold] platinum on October 26, 1989." [1989 came after 1986, is not 1987?]--  C  anniba loki  16:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Adjusted. I had reorganized the section long ago, but forgot to change the dates. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  23:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments Overall the article is quite good; I left some minor comments on Bookkeeper's talk page. I'm leaning towards a support. Two issues, though. One, the prose could use some polish. Some sentences run on a bit, or have garbled structure. Not too much of it, though. Second, and more serious: were no Janet Jackson biographies consulted as sources?  Even if they're worthless as sources, we need to know that you consulted them in order to fulfill the comprehensiveness criteria of the FAC process. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:46, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The only decent biography (actually the only legitimate biography) is Janet Jackson by Jane Cornwell which is no more comprehensive than any music encyclopedia which has written about her. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  09:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You might want to acknowledge it anyway under a "Further reading" section. It is authoritative on the subject, after all. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * done. The Bookkeeper   (of the Occult)  11:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
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