Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cutthroat trout/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose 23:49, 30 April 2014 (UTC) [//en.wikipedia.org/?diff=606552337].

Cutthroat trout

 * Nominator(s): Mike Cline (talk) 18:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

The cutthroat trout (Oncorhynchus clarki), although closely related to the rainbow trout, is not globally ubiquitous like the rainbow and is not subject to extensive commercial aquaculture. The cutthroat has not been widely introduced outside of its native range. It is a complex species with many subspecies and is to a large extent, a bell weather species for ecosystem health in the Western U.S. It is one of the big four recreational trout species in the U.S.—Brook, Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat trout. Many of the lessons learned from the rainbow trout FAC have been applied to the Cutthroat trout article. It just completed an extensive peer review and achieved GA status on: February 3, 2014 --Mike Cline (talk) 18:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Support Well written and researched account, with a wide range of sources, some of which go back to 1836. Excellent! -- Sparks my interest and makes me want to take up fly fishing. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Support as peer reviewer and thus somewhat involved.   Montanabw (talk) 18:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Image review
 * Map caption shouldn't end in period; lead caption shouldn't include forced break
 * fixed


 * File:Trout_cutthroat_fish_oncorhynchus_clarkii_clarkii.jpg should use PD-USGov (or more specific template) rather than PD-author
 * License changed to PD-USGov-FWS


 * File:Bonneville_cutthroat.jpg is sourced to itself - is there an original source?
 * Could not find original source, so swapped out with new image


 * File:Yellowstone_Cutthroat_Trout.jpg is tagged as lacking author info
 * Can't seem to locate any tags on any of the three Yellowstone cutthroat images re lack of author. They list either agencies or unknown for the author. ??? --Mike Cline (talk) 15:06, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * File:Oncorhynchus_clarkii_virginalis.jpg: source link is dead
 * Could not find original image, swapped out with new image


 * File:AnglersYellowstone-Haynes1897.jpg needs US PD tag and author date of death
 * License adjusted and death date of author added


 * File:Bachforelle_Zeichnung.jpg appears to be from FWS, not NOAA? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:50, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This image is in the template:trouts not this article. It looks like it was originally uploaded from a NOAA source in 2005 (1st link in source line). As the NOAA source credited FWS, the license was changed to PD-USGov-FWS. Additional links on the source line are to FWS sites.  The table that shows history cannot be edited (as far as I can see) thus the comment re NOAA is just that, a comment. --Mike Cline (talk) 14:55, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Comments from Jim
Just a couple of points before I support
 * As this hybrid generally bears similar coloration and overall appearance to the cutthroat trout, retaining the characteristic orange-red slash, these hybrids often pose a taxonomic difficulty. Singular or plural? Clunky either way
 * Unclunked the text with this rewording: This hybrid generally bears similar coloration and overall appearance to the cutthroat trout, generally retaining the characteristic orange-red slash. Cutbow hybrids often pose a taxonomic difficulty when trying to distinguish any given specimen as a rainbow or cutthroat trout.


 * "redd" and "alevin" are words I don't know and are neither linked nor explained  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  17:33, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Linked these terms to the most appropriate wiki terms. --Mike Cline (talk) 16:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Support I replaced the second "generally" in the sentence (a word you are inclined to overuse, looking at the text as a whole), no other queries, nice work  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Will be making a pass through over next day or so. I consider my 59 edits to this article to be mostly minor, and a distant second to Mike Cline's 500 plus edits.--MONGO 04:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Support listing as a featured article. I combed though the article in read mode and edit mode and I see no blemishes of note. Ran citation bot which adjusted one reference. Looks good to me...nice job!--MONGO 16:58, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Notes
 * I think we still need a source review -- if none of the reviewers so far can take that, Mike pls add a request at the top of WT:FAC.
 * Requested


 * Also, the last para before Pyramid Lake Lahontan subspecies fishery appears largely unsourced -- it should at least finish with a citation. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:18, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * * Sources added. --Mike Cline (talk) 13:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Cursory reference review by MONGO....
 * Ref 17 to support: Native in western Nevada. Is designated as threatened (1975). Added eastern California in article text and date is correct to 1975 per cited ref.
 * Ref 26 to support: Native to the Arkansas and South Platte Rivers in eastern Colorado; it is designated as threatened (1978). supported by cited ref, date correct. May need to be tweaked to say mountains and foothills of Colorado instead of eastern Colorado....but that's minor.
 * reworded slightly to clarify


 * Ref 43 to support: Although cutthroat trout are not native to Arizona, they are routinely introduced by the Arizona Game and Fish Department into high mountain lakes in the White Mountains in the northeastern region of that state. is supported by ref cited.
 * Ref 48 to support: Coastal cutthroat trout feed in salt water on crustaceans and fishes while in fresh water they consume aquatic insects and crustaceans, frogs, earthworms, fishes, fish eggs, salamanders, etc....appears to be identical wording as cited ref so it must be in quotes or completely rephrased....also, the etc. needs to go as that is not encyclopedic unless you put it in quotes.
 * reworded plus additional citation


 * Ref 57 and 63 to support: However, aggressive lake trout eradication programs have killed over one million lake trout since 1996, and the hope is that this will lead to a restoration of cutthroat numbers. looks fine...simple math need to reach the million if using reference 63...but checks out.
 * Added quotation to citation to support.


 * Ref 66 is an ISBN available?
 * included


 * Refs 67 and 68: are there authors available?
 * Fixed, authors were already in citation, but it was formatted incorrectly


 * Nice article, well-written and beautifully illustrated. I can't find any issues that the earlier reviewers missed, so I'm happy to support.  Good luck. --Coemgenus (talk) 16:17, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 23:25, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
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