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The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 20:59, 27 May 2015.

Cyclone Anne

 * Nominator(s): Jason Rees (talk) 16:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

This article is about Severe Tropical Cyclone Anne which affected the island nations of Tuvalu, Vanuatu, New Caledonia and the Solomon Islands back in January 1988. I have worked on this article for several months now and feel that now is the time for me to obtain some feedback on it from the community and that its worthy of being an FA.Jason Rees (talk) 16:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Source review - spotchecks not done
 * Multi-page citations should use "pp." not "p."
 * Done.Jason Rees (talk) 12:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Ranges should use unspaced endashes not hyphens or emdashes (and check dash usage in article body as well)
 * I ran the dashes script over the article and hope that this is now sorted.Jason Rees (talk) 12:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * FN27: URL redirects to another page
 * I have found an archive url of this page and fixed it.Jason Rees (talk) 16:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Be consistent in where you include publisher locations, and be more specific than US
 * I think ive fixed this now.Jason Rees (talk) 22:32, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * FN5, 13, 16: page?
 * There were none associated with the news articles when i checked them on Lexis Nexis this morning.Jason Rees (talk) 12:49, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Be consistent in whether you include publishers for periodicals
 * What makes this a high-quality reliable source? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:00, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * On its own its probably not overly reliable, however, my thought process was that it backs up what the museum was saying and seems to go a little bit further.Jason Rees (talk) 16:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

This is all to say that the article needs a fairly extensive copyediting session (though I haven't gone beyond the lead yet, so I could be making assumptions). The content seems good at first glance. I'll try to go through the page in the near future, but I can't make any promises, so you might want to enlist another editor in the meantime. Shouldn't be too hard to get this in shape. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:17, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Comments on prose and presentation
 * It seems weird to mention Roy in the first two lines of the article, since—as far as I can tell—the storms had nothing to do with each other.
 * Not sure to be honest since they were twins per the JTWC and if it was today we would probably be finding impact in Kiribati.Jason Rees (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Before" and "after" are collectively used ~17 times in the lead and MH. There's nothing inherently wrong with the words, but the sentence structure they lend itself to do get monotonous.
 * Ive removed one instance and will see what I can do when i get chance.Jason Rees (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Category" should be capitalized to be more in line with the thousand+ other TC articles.
 * Done.Jason Rees (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * During January 12 after the cyclone had turned and started to move towards the south, Cyclone Anne became the most powerful tropical cyclone to affect New Caledonia in 12 years as it made landfall on the French Overseas Territory. - this could simply be "After turning toward the south on January 12, Anne struck New Caledonia, becoming the strongest tropical cyclone to affect the FOT in 12 years."
 * Revised.Jason Rees (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * After the cyclone had moved back into the Coral Sea - you never said it was there in the first place...
 * Removed.Jason Rees (talk) 09:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Within" is used 19 times in the relatively short article (including at the beginnings of three sentences in the second impact of preps/impact). Try to find some different words... in, on, over, throughout, across.
 * You did some copyediting so could you clairfy if this is still an issue.Jason Rees (talk) 21:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * torrential rain, flooding and storm surge caused damage to houses, crops, and property - either use the Oxford comma or don't but really, do :P
 * Sorted.Jason Rees (talk) 21:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Extensive damage was also recorded on the islands of Vanua Lava and Gaua. Extensive damage was also reported on New Caledonia...
 * Reworded.Jason Rees (talk) 21:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Comments - I made some basic copyediting, per JC. If you disagree, please let me know. Here are some other comments. Hope none of these are too troublesome to deal with. Cheers! ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 20:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No need to link Roy in the See also, considering it's linked already. Find another link. Ditto Agi. Link Agi in the article when you first mention it. Then, you should find other, similar storms to link in see also.
 * You say it was the strongest New Caledonia landfall, but you don't say the winds. Why?
 * Why no links for the various islands in the lead?
 * I think you should put a note in, along the lines of what I did in Typhoon Maemi, saying what the FMS is. That way, the reader knows instantly that it is an important meteorological service, and not just some weather office for Fiji. Ditto with "United States Joint Typhoon Warning Center".
 * "Over the next two days the Southern Hemisphere system developed further as it was steered towards the south-southwest along an area of high pressure, before it became equivalent to a tropical storm while passing through the Tuvaluan Islands." - this should be split up, but I'm not sure *when* it became a TS
 * "the cyclone passed through Temotu Province and about 55 km to the northwest of Anuta Island" - why no mention of the country?
 * "After the cyclone re-emerged into the Coral Sea" - when was it first in the Coral Sea?
 * Do you have a better way of saying "as it was caught up in the upper westerly flow"? It could use a bit more explanation.
 * "where strong gale force winds of 70 km/h were recorded" - as it was a gust, does the mph need to be rounded to the nearest 5? Typically we don't if it's an exact gust.
 * You might want to add a note about "10-minute sustained". As 10-minute is the standard, you could add a note saying all wind values are 10-minute unless otherwise stated.
 * "Anuta, Utupua, the Duff Islands and the Reef Islands all reported extensive damage to property and crops with at least 25 houses and 5 classrooms damaged." - this directly contradicts the previous sentences about the province escaping the strong winds. Or, was there heavy damage due to lighter winds? Something isn't right.
 * "Vanuatuan" isn't correct. The denonym is "Ni-Vanuatu", but I don't think that's any better for such a general term. Are you ok with "Northern Vanuatu Islands"?
 * "Within Vanuatu, over 1600 people were made homeless while wind gusts of up to 225 km/h were recorded." - neither are related aside from general impact. You should have met stats separate from actual impacts
 * "Torrential rain, flooding and storm surge caused damage to houses, crops, and property while triggering a landslide on the island of Epi." - did all of this happen on Epi? Also, what distinguishes property from houses?
 * "The hardest hit area was Torba Province with severe damage recorded on the islands of Ureparapara and the Torres Islands, while extensive damage was recorded on the islands of Vanua Lava and Gaua." - I have no idea what's going on here. You already said "During January 10, the cyclone directly passed over the Torres Islands and came within 65 km (40 mi) of the Banks Islands". This sort of info should be together. Or, is all of this in Torba Province? That means little for people who don't know the provinces of Vanuatu.
 * "There were reports of 4 - 5 m tidal waves" - so, most people think of tidal waves as tsunamis, or something of the sort. I assume this refers to just storm-generated waves?
 * "while significant wave heights of over 11 m were recorded" - where? On land?
 * "Some areas reported crop damage between 90 and 100%" - which areas? Was it just one farm? That sentence is kinda wishy-washy?
 * You mention winds "up to 150 km/h" in Noumea. That's useless, as technically 1 km/h is within the range of 0 up to 150. Do you know the exact figure?
 * "The last wooden Royal Navy boat was scheduled to be sunk on January 12, but was moved to January 19 due to the cyclones." - this needs context
 * How are there references to Euros? They didn't come out until 7 years after the storm
 * There are references to Euros in the articles because the references for the aftermath are from the EU and use the "fictional" European Currency Unit. When this was abolished it was apparently determined that 1 ECU = 1 Euro and as a result I felt it better to use the non-fictional currency rather than the fictional.Jason Rees (talk) 23:32, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Just for the record I am aware of these comments but have become busy in real life, i am aiming to deal with most of them on Sunday if i dont find time before.Jason Rees (talk) 23:32, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you addressed any of these comments? ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 14:51, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Coordinator query -, I see that you have been active, but not on this article. Do you intend to continue with this nomination? If not, I will archive it. -- Laser brain  (talk)  02:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I was active over the weekend as I seriously needed some fun and a break from RL, which is still rather busy. As a result I feel I like I have to withdraw this FAC as i cannot guarantee to get to it by the weekend.Jason Rees (talk) 20:50, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Tks . Just FTR, it's "" (with a lower case "b"). I'll take of the withdrawal since I'm here. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 20:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 20:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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