Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Danger: Diabolik/archive1

Danger: Diabolik

 * Nominator(s): PatTheMoron (talk) 06:17, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

This article is about a 1968 movie by Italian horror master Mario Bava - based on an enormously popular Italian comic series, it underwent a troubled production history due to changing producers, directors and actors multiple times before hitting the big screen, where it did okay but not spectacular business, especially compared to its "sister" movie, Barbarella, which was made by many of the same people. Like many of the films that would come to influence the likes of Austin Powers and other spy spoofs, it was largely forgotten until the 1990s saw its home media and MTS3K revival, before being left to rot in out-of-print purgatory during the 2010s in the wake of the MCU and the Dark Knight Trilogy, before slowly and surely coming back to Blu-ray this year, given that most of Bava's other films (including many of his less significant works) have received the HD treatment and that it has influenced the likes of Edgar Wright. I believe that the article is FA-worthy because it now covers many of the bases that Andrzejbanas initially had difficulty finding info and sources for, and more fully accounts for Bava's work on the film, as well as its legacy, critical standing and influence. PatTheMoron (talk) 06:17, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - Just making sure if you let Andrzejbanas know you nominated this article he worked on. I've asked for permission to nominate others work before. GamerPro64  16:57, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi GamerPro! PatTheMoron has discussed it with me by the by. I'm totally comfortable with this. :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Source review by Ealdgyth

 * What makes the following high quality reliable sources?
 * https://www.allmovie.com/movie/danger-diabolik-v12142 (note that WP:RSP is decidely iffy on it and I do not think it meets the high quality requirement of the FA criteria.)
 * Removed the AllMovie citations since other sources cover the same info. PatTheMoron (talk) 08:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * http://www.archiviodelcinemaitaliano.it/index.php/chi-siamo.html and it needs to be labeled as in italian
 * This is an official source run by the Associazione nazionale industrie cinematografiche audiovisive e multimediali, and is generally trustworthy. PatTheMoron (talk) 08:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * https://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/16396/danger-diabolik/
 * https://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s71diabolik.html#return
 * Glenn Erickson is a veteran film critic who has studied Danger: Diabolik multiple times (including analysing an early draft of the script), and the info he provides on both the DVD Talk and Savant is worthwhile. PatTheMoron (talk) 08:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * unfortuantely, there's nothing in the WP:RS policy that says that if the information is worthwhile, that makes the source reliable. For advice on how to show a source is a high quality source, see User:Ealdgyth/FAC cheatsheet Ealdgyth (talk) 12:48, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I've removed the DVDSavant references and replaced them when needed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:33, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * https://www.everythingaction.com/2018/01/29/musical-montage-beastie-boys-body-movin/
 * Removed. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:21, 7 January 2021 (UTC)


 * https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=26348
 * Replaced with Shout Factory source. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
 * http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film9/blu-ray_review_125/danger_diabolik_blu-ray.htm#:~:text=Factory%20Blu%2Dray%20of%20Mario,The%20film%20is%20strongly%20recommended!
 * I've removed this one. DVDBeaver is self-published home video review site, and should not be used. Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * http://10kbullets.com/reviews/d/danger-diabolik-scream-factory-bluray/
 * I've removed this one. Similar to DVDBeaver. Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * https://www.badtaste.it/articoli/diabolik-diventera-un-film-diretto-dai-manetti-bros-e-prodotto-dalla-01/
 * Per MOS:ALLCAPS, titles of articles should not be in all capitals.
 * https://www.shoutfactory.com/product/danger-diabolik?product_id=73668 deadlinks
 * Added correct link. PatTheMoron (talk) 08:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Ealdgyth (talk) 16:32, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Image review
 * Suggest adding alt text
 * File:Diabolik_(caverna).JPG: given that what's pictured is a set design and this is a screenshot from a film, I don't think the current tagging is appropriate or sufficient
 * File:Diabolik_e_Eva_Kant.JPG: similarly, not sure this would qualify as a simple photograph vs art. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Those images were from the Italian page and on Commons. I thought it would be a waste to not use them to illustrate some of the article's points, although I can see the argument being made that the tagging might not as helpful as I intended. Any ideas, Andrzejbanas? PatTheMoron (talk) 08:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * A photo in Mario Bava: All the Colors of the Dark actually does show Bava preparing the matte painting for that scene, but I'm concerned that putting that particular image in the article may be copyright-unfriendly, which is why I've leant towards the already-used screenshot. PatTheMoron (talk) 08:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Just because something is in commons, doesn't mean we should try and squeeze all the use we can out of them. Often images are of low quality and can't really illustrate a point very well. Having them isn't make or break for the article honestly. Andrzejbanas (talk) 08:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Comments by GamerPro64
Gonna review this now.


 * "Although De Laurentiis set aside $3 million with which to make the film, the final budget came to only 200 million lire." What does that mean in terms of the exchange rate of US dollars and Italian lire? GamerPro64  03:38, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * are you still working on this? I want to review this more because I want this article to become a Featured Article. GamerPro64  23:51, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi GamerPro64! Sorry for the delay, I've been a bit busy and tied up with other stuff at the moment, but I mainly wanted to make sure that any info from sources that possibly aren't FA-friendly was removed for the time being. I'm having trouble finding a source that accurately shows the exchange rate from lira to dollars, but apparently 200 million lira was worth around $320,000. PatTheMoron (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Coordinator note
This has been open for nearly four weeks and has yet to gain any supports. Unless it attracts more interest over the next two or three days it will have to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:54, 24 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I am regretfully archiving this. After more than four weeks it has attracted little interest. The two weeks wait before renomination will not apply. However, can I suggest having some willing, and preferably experienced, reviewers lined up when it next appears here. Call in some favours, or perhaps do a few more FAC reviews to accumulate some favours. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:55, 28 January 2021 (UTC)