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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Sarastro1 via FACBot (talk) 21:26, 22 February 2018.

Deep Space Homer

 * Nominator(s): AmericanAir88 (talk) 20:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Deep Space Homer is a notable episode of the Simpsons. The episode has guest stars of Buzz Aldrin and James Taylor. The episode is well known in the Simpsons community, even having a copy for the International Space Station to watch. In the episode, NASA is concerned by the decline in public interest in space exploration, and therefore decides to send an ordinary person into space. After competition with his friend Barney during training, Homer is selected and chaos ensues when the navigation system on his space shuttle is destroyed.

This is my First FA Nomination. I have reviewed many Good articles and have nominated others in the process. I have copy-edited this article and talked to others about the structure. I want to continue the success of Simpsons articles. AmericanAir88 (talk) 20:32, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Support by Darkwarriorblake
As I don't really know how to do a Featured Article on a television episode, I have referred to an existing one - "A Streetcar Named Marge".
 * The first point I'd raise is that the lead does not mention any of the reception or legacy received by the episode
 * I would rephrase " The episode became the source of the Overlord meme". I kinda guessed what it referred to as a fan of the Simpsons, but to the uneducated reader I imagine this reads as quite random? Maybe other editors can input here. I would suggest something like "A scene from the episode, in which anchorman Kent Brockman mistakes ants for alien invaders, has since gone on to become a common meme for exaggerating submission to other entities". This might be too wordy, but I think explaining what the "overlord meme" means will go along way to helping the casual Simpsons fan or non-fan understand.
 * Do you think the Overlord part should be in the article? If so why in the lead? It seems better placed in "legacy AmericanAir88 (talk) 22:13, 15 January 2018 (UTC)


 * In the Cultural references section, there is a line about "Astronaut Race Banyon is a parody of Jonny Quest character Race Bannon." this is unsourced.
 * As the DVD is sourced quite extensively in the article, you should add time-codes to show where the information is mentioned for people to be able to find it in the future. If you want to know how to do this, take a look at The Shawshank Redemption and Ctrl+f "sfn" for examples.
 * I did a "sfn" for the commentaries and have the location as "Simpsons World" due to that site being the location for all the commentaries. Finding the timestamps in near impossible and would take hours. AmericanAir88 (talk) 22:36, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

*I would argue that there is an excuse to include a NFCC screenshot of something to do with Brockman/the ants to demonstrate what the meme is about as it's discussed a lot in the reception section.
 * Should I keep the meme in the article? AmericanAir88 (talk) 22:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! AmericanAir88 (talk) 22:56, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I would check some of the Cultural References sources in general as I found it hard to identify the information it was sourcing.
 * Good luck! Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 20:18, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think the meme is fine, it has plenty of coverage, I meant you could include an image of that scene to demonstrate what it is about. If you can't fit it into the article you could fit it into the infobox. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 22:18, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Image has been added. Thank you! AmericanAir88 (talk) 23:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Sources review

 * Ref 2: link goes to an error message
 * Ref 11: p. range requires ndash not hyphen
 * Ref 12; contains a redundant "pp."

Otherwise, the sources seem appropriate and are properly presented. Brianboulton (talk) 21:13, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

All Completed AmericanAir88 (talk) 23:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Oppose from Aoba47

 * Okay; then my commentary/review ends here and my oppose still stands. Aoba47 (talk) 23:57, 24 January 2018 (UTC)



Comments by Tintor2
Used the archived bot to all sources but there are some things that bother me: Other than that, I am willing to give you my support if these issues are solved. If possible, could you check this FAC? Also, don't worry if the nomination fails. There is always next time and this was your first time at it. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 19:08, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Some sources seem a bit hard to trust like Know You Meme since they are edited by users rather than professional writers.
 * I would avoid referencing the plot section unless we are referencing a confusing fact like what happens to Harvey Dent in the second Nolan Batman movie.
 * Avoid small paragraphs. As I always think, imagine that Wikipedia is a formal letter.

All issues addressed, Thanks! AmericanAir88 (talk) 01:21, 31 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Giving my support. Good luck with the article.Tintor2 (talk) 03:05, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Comments by Bcschneider53
Just taking a brief look through this, I'm not quite sure we're there yet. Like Aoba47, I also have concerns about comprehensiveness. A quick search via Google Books shows that the episode has several other sources that are not yet present in the article. Therefore, I'd like to see some additional referencing (and, if possible, material) added before I give this a formal review. Also, this is just a side note, but I'd remove the Grade Saver reference (#9) as it appears to be nothing more than a direct copy of this article/section, 2001: A Space Odyssey (film).

Please, don't worry if the nomination is not successful. I've had nominations fail in the past as well. FAC is a long working process that requires an intense amount of research and dedication. This is absolutely a GA but I'm not sure it's comprehensive enough to be an FA just yet. I wish you nothing but the best as you continue to work on this! --Bcschneider53 (talk) 18:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Comments by Panagiotis Zois
Closing comment: Given the standing oppose on this FAC, and the concerns of Bcschneider53, I will archive this shortly. It can be renominated after the usual 2-week waiting period, but I would recommend getting further eyes on the article if possible before renominating. Sarastro (talk) 21:25, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Sarastro (talk) 21:26, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
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