Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Donald Bradman with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948


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The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 04:27, 7 March 2009.

Donald Bradman with the Australian cricket team in England in 1948

 * Nominator(s):  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! )

Article about Don Bradamn's role in the 1948 Invincibles team as its captain and No 1 player. Part of The Invincibles squad FT drive.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! ) 03:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Restart, old nom, images and sources reviewed. Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 03:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Support - Concerns from previous resolved.  Ceran  thor 14:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Ref format comment -- Issue found with WP:REFTOOLS.
 * More than 1 ref has this content, so it should have a ref name first.
 * Cashman, pp. 33–38. | Multiple refs contain this content, a named reference should be used instead-- TRU  CO   16:23, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment - Ref 5 is for "pp 222–;225". The semi-colon may be another little glitch that can be fixed.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 21:42, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed both of these.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! '') 02:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - from previous nomination.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Support - Looks good to go.—Sandahl (talk) 04:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments - Here are a couple of quick things I saw while looking at the early part of the article again. My impressions of it as a whole are unchanged: great content, but lots of hard-to-understand cricket jargon.
 * "his troubles against Alec Bedsor's leg trap... was the subject of much discussion." Notice the conflicting tenses here?
 * There's a large space between the first and second paragraphs of Early life. I think it has to do with a hidden photo.
 * Two Keith Miller links in Early life.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 03:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed these.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! '') 08:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Support with some comments by Peripitus. Lots of cricket jargon but I cannot see how this can be reduced without adding excessive explanatory text. To me at least&mdash;a cricket ignoramus&mdash;though the jargon slows reading, the article is well comprehensible.
 * In the first paragraph of "Early tour" there are 4 references after a sentence with what looks like only two facts...is this strictly necessary ? I'm also confused as this is referring to a future event (what will happen in the matches) but is referenced to the post-match statistics. Is there a reference that shows that Bradman would have expected a run-rate slower than 3.64 ?
 * No I haven't looked, but in that era, it was always lower than 3.64; it is there to show that 200 runs took a longer time than 55 overs, so Australia did get a new ball more often.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! '') 08:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

- Peripitus (Talk) 06:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Shortly after this the use of the word "centurion", while seemingly common in this cricket context it seems an unneeded piece of jargon. Rather than to become Australia's first centurion on tour, perhaps to score the first Australian century on tour
 * Removed it.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! '') 08:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Comments from Pretty good.
 * "Australia then headed to The Oval for the Fifth Test starting on 14 August" Audit for unnecessary "then"'s throughout, it is one of those "transitional" words that actually impedes flow rather then aid. I don't understand what you mean by "starting on 14 August". Was the journey a multiple-day trip that started on 14 August?
 * "In contrast, Australia batted with apparent ease" Why only "apparent"?
 * "Yardley led the Englishmen in giving his Australian counterpart three cheers,[106] before shaking Bradman's hand. I don't think the comma is necessary.
 * "Bradman's relentless use of his pace attack and fieldsmen also raise eyebrows." Is this supposed to be present tense?
 * "Prior to"--Before (simpler, and sounds nicer to boot) Dabomb87 (talk) 02:03, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
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