Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Enta Da Stage

Enta Da Stage
Self nomination/Support I think the page is thorough enough to be included on the featured articles list, though it might need minor editing. Only one Hip Hop article is on the featured list, and we need some more. And considering that there's very limited info on the album (unlike Illmatic), I'd say I did a good job. --PDTantisocial 08:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * As there are no official Wikipedia guidelines regarding the role of the FA director or how a article is promoted to featured status I am giving this article my support abstaining. Please see the discussions [] and [] at the featured article talk page for my reasoning. --Jayzel 12:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Object References seem a bit thin. For example, the sections Album singles as well as the sections Tracklisting and below have no stated references. Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 15:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Objection withdrawn. Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 18:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * That's what I was sayin' when I said there wasn't much info on the album. Plus, why would you need references for a tracklisting? It comes with the CD, you want me to scan the tracklisting from the album notes and use it as a reference? --PDTantisocial 21:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * You could cite the CD, though I'm not sure what the standards for citing CDs are. Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 00:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * The album singles section, I got the info from the liner notes of the Diggin' in Dah Vaults album, I can't find anything about it online, so I don't know what to put for a reference. The chart positions I wouldn't think need a reference, Illmatic is a featured article and it doesn't reference the chart positions, anybody can find that shit. --PDTantisocial 22:34, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Threw in references for the chart positions, album singles and the samples. --PDTantisocial 01:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment I doubt that the tracklist needs to be referenced, seeing as Illmatic is a Featured article and contains no such thing Chubdub 14:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * It can be improved by reducing links to solitary years. A monobook tool allows this to be done with one click on a 'dates' tab in edit mode. You can then accept or reject the changes offered and/or do more editing before pressing 'Save'. Simply copy the entire contents of User:Bobblewik/monobook.js to your own monobook. Then follow the instructions in your monobook to clear the cache (i.e. press Ctrl-Shift-R in Firefox, or Ctrl-F5 in IE) before it will work. Hope that helps. bobblewik 19:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Support as per nom Chubdub 15:21, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Support as per nom 69.116.150.174 03:01, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Object Neutral no fair use rationales H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 10:52, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you kindly exlpain this. I am a new member of Wikipedia, and therefore, don't understand how the images within this article fall under copyright infringement. P.O.N.Y. 11:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Blackmoonr.jpg is fair use because it is an album cover, Blackmoonstayreal.jpg is fair use because it from the music video "Stay Real," Blackmoonhowmanymcs.jpg is fair use because it from the music video "How Many MCs...," and Blackmoonpic2.jpg is fair use because it is part of an advertisement. I could not find a rationale for Beatminerz.jpg. 69.116.150.174 19:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment The Beatminerz picture is promotional. --PDTantisocial 23:36, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
 * But still fair use. H ig hway Batman! 21:36, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * First, this did quite well on a citation spot check (results here).  I have to object, however for two reasons.  First, this needs a copyedit.  A sampling of a few sentences from the lead shows a number of issues:
 * "features the debut from popular underground duo": 'from' is wrong; should be 'of'.
 * "...Dru-Ha, Duck Down Records co-founder.": 'Dru Ha, the co-founder of Duck Down Records', or 'Duck Down Records co-founder Dru-Ha' would be correct.
 * "Though critically acclaimed, the album was unable to produce significant sales,": "was unable to produce sales" is a bad phrasing; perhaps "sold relatively few copies"?
 * "despite of two Billboard Hot 100 hits": 'of' is wrong.' 'despite having', perhaps?
 * "Nonetheless, Enta Da Stage preceded the aforementioned releases": Why is this "nonetheless"?
 * These and similar issues throughout need to be fixed. Second, a number of statements that need citations do not have them. Examples:
 * "Though not as widely heralded as similar groundbreaking New York albums of the mid-'90s like Nas' Illmatic, The Notorious B.I.G.'s Ready to Die, Wu-Tang Clan's Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) and Mobb Deep's The Infamous, Enta Da Stage was critically on a similar plateau." (What exactly does it mean to be "critically on a similar plateau, by the way?)
 * "...was one of the pioneering releases during the return of New York's street hip hop resurgence of the mid '90s, after the West Coast's reign of the early '90s."
 * Someone needs to go through this and work on both of these issues. --RobthTalk 11:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've gone through and fixed your objections. 69.116.150.174 01:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
 * So far so good, but my point was that not just those specific cases but a number of similar cases throughout the article need to be fixed. Go through, look for unsourced statements that a reader might want a source for, and pick over the language to make sure every sentence works. --RobthTalk 04:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Support Looks fine to me. ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 22:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. Very good job wwith this one. —Cuivi é nen 16:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)