Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Free State of Galveston/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Karanacs 17:13, 30 March 2010.

Free State of Galveston

 * Nominator(s): Mcorazao (talk) 16:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because it has passed GA, has had feedback from multiple peer reviewers, and has been stable for some time. I believe that the article meets the criteria and covers an important historical era comprehensively. Thanks in advance for any feedback or assistance. Mcorazao (talk) 16:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comments. All fixed. Two dab links: to Pelican Island and Poll. Dead external link to http://www.txplanning.org/TPR/TPR200812.pdf ; there should be a WebCite archive according to the tool. Alt text generally good. There are a couple of WP:ALT that are missing alt text; I'll try to take care of those. Ucucha 16:16, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think between the two of us these concerns are fixed now. --Mcorazao (talk) 17:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Thanks! Ucucha 17:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Image Check: Passed - 6 images. Most are free-use or CC-by-SA from WP editors or confirmed flickr transfers. File:Beach hotel galveston.jpg needs the author of the image added, though it is still available to use regardless. If File:Galveston county map.jpg was created by you, that should be specified, not just your name. If it wasn't you, then we need a source for the image to prove the licensing of the image. -- Pres N  19:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.
 * File:Beach hotel galveston.jpg - I assume you mean that the author should be specified as unknown. I added this. I have no way of determining anything further.
 * File:Galveston county map.jpg - The full author name was already there. Not sure what you mean. I went ahead and switched to using the standard template if that was the issue. --Mcorazao (talk) 21:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I meant that if Miguel R. Corazao was the user Mcorazao, then it should link to the user page, but on further thought it doesn't really matter. Changed to passed. Thanks! -- Pres N  17:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments -
 * Thanks! --Mcorazao (talk) 18:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Please spell out abbreviations in the notes - not everyone is going to know what NPR means.
 * Done. --Mcorazao (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)


 * What makes the following reliable sources?
 * http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/events/1900hurr.htm
 * Holdover from earlier days of the article. Replaced with higher-quality source. --Mcorazao (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.texasexplorer.com/OperaHouseGalveston.htm
 * You're right. Not a high-quality source. I found a better reference. --Mcorazao (talk) 20:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.humanitiestexas.org/newsroom/spotlights/balineseroom/index.php
 * Humanities Texas is "the state affiliate of the National Endowment for the Humanities". It is a well established and respected organization. --Mcorazao (talk) 19:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.southernhistory.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=9225&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
 * Sorry, meant to switch this one a while back. It actually is a high-quality reference conveyed through a lower quality repository. I relinked to the original source. --Mcorazao (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I know you've linked to google books on many of your printed sources, but you need to give page numbers for them also. Not everyone is going to be able to get to the exact page with the google books preview, plus if you give page numbers, in case something happens to the links, the page numbers will still be good.
 * Not sure what you mean. All of the citations to books should have page numbers (I'll check again). There are, of course, no page numbers for the books. Are you asking that in the References section the ranges of chapters in each book that are relevant to the topic should be included (not really an WP:MOS requirement so far as I have seen)? --Mcorazao (talk) 18:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see, you've used no books in your article except for the fact taht the books exist. Never mind.
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:51, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!--Mcorazao (talk) 18:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Oppose—1a, 2a and more. Sorry, it's most unsatisfactory. Tony  (talk)  10:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you elaborate on 2a? --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it just me, or do other people find the title and the italicised opening explanation confusing: "This article is about Galveston in a historical period: the early 20th century." At the least, there is redundant wording. And "early" then morphs into "first half of" during the lead.
 * Actually I never liked that (the disambig text). Another editor inserted the verbose wording and others seemed to prefer it so I let stand. I've changed it back. --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "Free-wheeling" is vague.
 * The expression was intended to be motivational, not informative, per se. Are you recommending removing it? --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No hyphen after -ly (see the MoS).
 * You're right. I never noticed that before. --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * One or two commas in the longer sentences would not go astray: "During the Roaring 20s, Galveston Island emerged as a nationally-known resort town, attracting celebrities from around the nation." And it's repetitive: nationally known and "around the nation"?
 * Added commas as recommended. How are "nationally known" and "around the nation" repetitive? They refer to separate things. Do you mean that the phrases are too similar (i.e. is it that you dislike two uses of words with the root "nation")? --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * "Vice-oriented" is a bit clunky, although it becomes more acceptable in retrospect when one has read the para.
 * Do you have a recommendation for a different phrase? I actually chose this as wording I have seen authors use in books. --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Is there something weird and wonderful about "tourism" that requires it to be linked? Same for "gambling" etc. Our readers are expected to understand plain English.
 * Unlinked. -Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * En dash spacing is wrong in the infobox: please see WP:MOSDASH.
 * Somebody changed that already. --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Falls off a cliff without explanation: "By the 1950s this era had ended."
 * Expanded this statement to give more context. --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Most of the images need to be boosted in size: try 240 or 250px. The map contains text that is absolutely impossible to read.
 * I went ahead and added explicit sizes to the images but I think the defaults were about this size. I pushed the size of the map higher. I can look at modifying the map further if it is helpful. --Mcorazao (talk) 06:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I've flicked through more of it and my opinion has not changed: there is something weird about the prose, the angle, the tone, and there are plenty of technical faults. Tony  (talk)  10:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If you're inclined to be more specific I'll see what I can do. --Mcorazao (talk) 06:41, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Note: I have addressed all of the above concerns for which there were specifics. As further commentary has not been forthcoming I am not sure what more to do ... --Mcorazao (talk) 23:10, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Approve Made some small wording changes. I disagree with Tony1-- the choice of name for this topic may seem weird at first but it describes a crucial part of Texan history. Shii (tock) 00:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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