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French battleship France

 * Nominator(s): Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

France was completed shortly before the beginning of World War I and ferried the President of France to Saint Petersburg for consultations with the Tsar during the July Crisis of 1914. She had a typical war for a French dreadnought, spending most of it swinging at her moorings in case the Austro-Hungarian fleet attempted to break out of the Adriatic. The ship was sent to the Black Sea in 1919 to support Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War, but her crew was tired of the fighting and mutinied. They succeeded in their goal of getting the French ships withdrawn, although most of the ringleaders were later court-martialed. France struck a rock in 1922 and quickly sank with minimal loss of life. The article just passed a MilHist A-class review. I'd like reviewers to look for any remnants of AmEnglish, unlinked or unexplained jargon and infelicitous prose.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Comments Support by PM
I just reviewed this at Milhist A-Class, and could find little to nitpick about then. I have a few minor points: That's all I have. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:21, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * suggest "then under construction to be built as part of the 1906 Naval Programme"
 * you could add the casemate armour to the infobox
 * I'm not seeing a link to Courbet the ship, as distinct from the class?
 * suggest "and the light cruiser Coventry" to make it clearer that Coventry was also British
 * can anything be said like "she was the nth ship of her name"?
 * Thanks for looking this over. See if my changes are satisfactory.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:57, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * All good, supporting. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:50, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Sources review
Brianboulton (talk) 13:55, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The bibliography includes Masson 2003, to which there are no citations. This looks like it should be in "Further reading".
 * Otherwise, all appears in good order. No issues concerning quality/reliability.
 * It's used in cite 15, but thanks for checking it out.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:57, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Image review


 * Suggest adding alt text


 * File:France_in_Toulon-Agence_Rol-1.jpeg: what is this work's status in the US? Nikkimaria (talk) 14:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Gallica says published 1914, so I've added a PD-1923 tag.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:05, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Support from Tim riley
I commented at the A class review in the mistaken belief (old, Master Shallow!) that I was commenting on an FAC. Now the article really is at FAC I have no difficulty in reiterating my support.  Tim riley  talk   22:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Support by Gog the Mild
What a superb article. I can only find two pieces of utter trivia to comment on, but neither need action to elicit my support.


 * "the superiority of the all-big-gun battleship like HMS Dreadnought" Either "battleship" should be plural, or the sentence should be recast.
 * Yeah, I can see that, but I was trying to go for Dreadnought as the exemplar of her type.
 * "by meeting the mutineers' demands for leave by letting crewmen" Optional: "by meeting ... by letting"; second "by" to 'and'?
 * Good idea. Glad you liked the article!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:57, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Gog the Mild (talk) 22:12, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

This looks about ready to promote, can I nominate another article?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:07, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Sturm, sorry for delayed response -- yes, go ahead. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 10:38, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Support from Parsecboy
I reviewed the article at the Milhist ACR and my nitpicks were addressed there. Nice work as usual. Parsecboy (talk) 13:29, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Support by CPA-5
As I can tell this looks a great article. In reviewed this one in the ACR, last month. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 14:48, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

-- Laser brain  (talk)  11:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)