Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Gabriel Fauré/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by GrahamColm 09:34, 6 May 2012.

Gabriel Fauré

 * Nominator(s): Tim riley (talk) 11:25, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Gabriel Fauré was one of France's greatest composers, writing works of great subtlety during a long and interesting life. The article on his piano music was promoted to FA earlier this year and I felt the article on the composer himself deserved to be brought up to the same level. It has twice been peer reviewed: once before GAN in 2010 and again in the last few weeks, after the overhaul and expansion of the article. – Tim riley (talk) 11:25, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support While I have never listened to the man's work, and probably never will, I participated in the peer review and my concerns have been addressed. Very well done.  Images not checked.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:24, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment in the section on his vocal works, would it be possible, from the references, to mention about how his style of Melodie changed towards the end of his life? Eg in the cycle Le jardin clos, where subtlety is taken to an extreme (and extremes entirely avoided....)  almost - instinct 19:40, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting point. I'd be surprised if the sources didn't have something to that effect. I'll rummage and see. Tim riley (talk) 19:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. At the recent peer review I found it a hard task to fault the eminently encyclopaedic and reader-friendly presentation of this important composer, who is known to the general public primarily for a single work ("Fauré's Requiem") but who also wrote so much more fascinating music. I think Tim Riley is doing a fine service to Fauré and Wikipedia here. —MistyMorn (talk) 13:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. A great article and one which mirrors Piano music of Gabriel Fauré in terms of quality.  I made a couple of minor consistency adjustments for the references but could see no other issues.  A splendid job Tim! -- Cassianto (talk) 14:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you to MistyMorn and Cassianto for support. Tim riley (talk) 16:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Image review:
 * I'm pretty sure assuming "Date d'édition" is date of publication, although the archives don't provide a source work
 * File:Berceuse by Gabriel Fauré op56 no1.ogg - I can't find a CC-BY-SA license on the YouTube page. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:17, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It's under the "Show more" tab on the You Tube page. Graham Colm (talk) 09:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
 * File:Faurepiece.ogg - That this was uploaded by one of the players should be made clearer. Perhaps use a self template?
 * That's all I have; I'm duly impressed. I plan to look at prose tomorrow morning (UTC+7) Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:22, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment Two instances (one in the final paragraph of the lead and another in 'Orchestral and chamber works') where there is a missing e-acute accent on Fauré. Otherwise, pretty polished. -- Lemonade51 (talk) 15:40, 4 May 2012 (UTC
 * Aargh! Thank you very much! Shame on me. (Fauré had an almost exact contemporary, a travel writer, called Gabriel Faure (without an acute), and they got so used to being mistaken for each other that they became quite good friends.) Remedied the punctuation here. Tim riley (talk) 16:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support, good prose and is comprehensive. I do have 'La bonne chanson' and 'Pavane' somewhere in my personal music catalogue, worth listening it to again in the near future! -- Lemonade51 (talk) 15:43, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support.  I have sung some of Fauré's art songs, as well as the Requiem, and heard some other Fauré music, but before reading this article, I never knew of Fauré's importance in opening the French musical establishment to more modern or contemporary musical influences.  In any case, I found this article to be well-written, as everything by Tim riley is, balanced to emphasize the most important points, comprehensive, thoroughly referenced and illustrated and otherwise exemplifying the best content in Wikipedia.  It gives an excellent sense of who Fauré was as a musician, an educator and a person.  I should note that I have participated in proofreading this article.  Well done!  -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for this support, and for your proof-reading. Tim riley (talk) 16:53, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Sources review: Spotchecks not carried out
 * Ref 32: "Jones, p. 28 and Grove" looks incomplete
 * I'm never sure what to do when referring obliquely to a reference (Grove in this case) that I have spelled out in full earlier. I'm reluctant to burden the reader with a full reappearance of "Nectoux, Jean-Michel. "Fauré, Gabriel (Urbain)", Grove Online, Oxford Music Online, accessed 21 August 2010 " Tim riley (talk) 19:27, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ref 75: "Prunières, Henry, quoted in Copland" The Copland source needs to be specified.
 * As above, the ref is "Copland, Aaron. "Gabriel Fauré, a Neglected Master", The Musical Quarterly, October 1924, pp. 573–586 ", but I'm loth to trot it out again. Tim riley (talk) 19:27, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ref 106: The elements in this multiple reference are separated by a colon, rather than by a semicolon per your normal pracice in this article
 * Thank you for spotting that: now amended. Tim riley (talk) 19:27, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Ref 139: Some navigation aid required for this source
 * Drat! I put in the full url, but this website clearly ignores the search results url and defaults to its search home page. I really don't know what to do about this. I think it is probably technically impossible to take the reader closer to the search results that I found (with the kind help of User:Cg2p0B0u8m). Tim riley (talk) 19:27, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Brianboulton (talk) 19:20, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Support: I have carried out two lengthy peer reviews on this article, and there has been copious review input from elsewhere. I have nothing more to add beyond recognising this as an exceptionally well prepared article, the product of much dedicated work, which easily meets the FA criteria and will be an adornment to the corpus of composer biographies. Brianboulton (talk) 19:20, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I am, not for the first time, in your debt for your reviewing and your support. Many thanks! Tim riley (talk) 19:30, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Prose comments from Crisco 1492 (image review above)
 * Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 moved to talk


 * Tentative support pending clarification of YouTube copyright. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:56, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Delegate's Note - Thanks to the nominator and reviewers here, at PR and elsewhere, for making my job easy. Please see my comment above regarding the You Tube licence. Graham Colm (talk) 09:32, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


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