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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 16:32, 20 December 2007.

Green Wing Special
This article is currently a GA, and I now believe it to be of FA status. I have put the article through a peer review, and tried to impliment which recommendations were most useful for this article. I have tried to model the style of the article on some of The Simpsons FA episode articles, and I believe that this article is now the correct standard. ISD (talk) 16:48, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Oppose. Several comments:
 * "the" before dates is redundant.
 * Surely "Britain" should be the United Kingdom?
 * Is The British Sitcom Guide a reliable source? Wider input from other reviewers welcomed.
 * Timing of comments on the "Green Wing Special" DVD would be welcome (as it's easier to verify the facts then). I think cite video can handle this.
 * I can see plenty of one sentence (i.e. one or two line) paragraphs throughout the article. These need expansion or merging.
 * With the "Alternative ending" section, I don't think you need those subsections. Merging it into one or two paras should be enough.


 * The "Production" section's main should be "For further information" (per WP:SS, as "Production" is not a summary section).
 * "While this is good for a Channel 4 programme" is a little POV; I don't think you need to include it.
 * The main issue with this article is prose; it's a little unclear and awkward. A random sample:
 * "Whilst" is a little archiac; "while" should suffice.
 * "Mac returns to work, after a month's leave". Comma is not needed.
 * "Caroline confronts Mac about not wanting marry her". to marry surely. There's also a repeated "the" or two throughout.
 * "Soon, they have to go to a garage, to get the van checked for faults". Both commas are unnecessary.
 * "The exterior scenes are however more notable and were harder to shoot." How can a scene be "more notable"?


 * I'll be watching this page for updates. CloudNine (talk) 13:01, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Repsonse to Oppose: I've tried to impliment the changes you asked for. I need to go through the DVD to check the times, but I can do that soon enough. I'll double check the prose of the article as well. As far as the British Sitcom Guide is a reliable source, as it is the website that gives Green Wing the most coverage, having a large section on the site about the sitcom, and also having newsletters. I'll try and have a look for other reviews as well. ISD (talk) 13:25, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Continued response: I've added the DVD times, tried to improve the prose of the article, merged paragraphs and added more reviews. As far as I've been able to find out, the British Sitcom Guide appears to have the only complete plot overview of the episode (at least as a reliable source), so I would claim that this source is the most reliable. ISD (talk) 09:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Support, with Comments -- Overall, well-written and sourced. Use to consolidate duplicate citations in the References section.  Also, the DVD release section is too short, it could be merged back into the Reception section, or better yet, into the Production section.  Cirt (talk) 20:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC).
 * Response to Comment: I've moved the DVD section into "Production". By the way, most of the references which I think you are refering to are not repeated. If you are refering to references made to the DVD, they each refer to a different time in the DVD. ISD (talk) 21:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, quite thorough of you, I had not noticed that. Thanks for pointing that out.  Cirt (talk) 20:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC).


 * Oppose Needs a thorough copyedit- prose still sounds awkward in places, and there are mistakes (missing words etc.). Try the League of Copyeditors Lurker  (said · done) 12:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Response to Oppose: I've put it forward to the LoCE. ISD (talk) 12:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.