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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Graham Colm 07:30, 17 May 2014.

Grus (constellation)

 * Nominator(s): Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:08, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I feel I've done just about all I can to improve this article and reckon it's on par with some other constellation FAs. Have a read and let me know what else to fix..hopefully less stuff thanks to for a detailed GA review and some other copyediting eyes...cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:08, 1 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Image review
 * None of the given captions should end in periods
 * removed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The usage conditions for File:From_Cosmic_Spare_Tyre_to_Ethereal_Blossom.tif seem to require in-caption attribution. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
 * added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:10, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Support Comments from Jim
Usual quality work, just a couple of minor quibbles  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  11:49, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * gave its stars Bayer designations in 1756, some of which had been previously consid-ered&mdash;"some" refers to the designations as written
 * rejigged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * and northern United States&mdash;"the"
 * added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * three times/3 times&mdash; inconsistent, both versions used
 * made all numbers as numbers everywhere in this bit Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:08, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * File:Constellation Grus.jpg&mdash;pushes heading across, can easily be lowered a para to avoid this
 * nudged downwards Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:09, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * All looks good, supporting above  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:31, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Comments from Hamiltonstone
Support Excellent work. Queries:
 * Is it normal to have a big row of question marks in the Meteor shower part of the infobox? Surely it is not unknown whether or not they occur in this part of the sky?
 * there are none - sometimes they get left as ???? fixed now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


 * The article has 'Keyser' in the lead, but Keyzer in 'Stars'. Which is it?
 * can be spelt either way but settled on 's' for this Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


 * "in their Malay and Madagascan vocabulary" - what??
 * the stars were recorded there for some reason. No idea why as there were no words in Malay or madagascan. I have removed it as it doesn't add to the understanding of the constellation. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Alpha Gruis has an Arabic name (Alnair), while Gamma is Al Dhanab, but there's no mention of middle eastern constellations in the 'history' section. Any reason?
 * some stars of Grus were seen as part of Piscis Austrinus, which does have a classical history, until hived off to form a new constellation - do you think I should somehow highlight this or make more prominent? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:57, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, what I had been getting at was that the Arabs, who were among history's most prominent astronomers, may have adopted different constellations, as well as different star names. But if this is anything to go by, they did not. So no problem. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Is there any particular criteria that underpin the decision to make some galaxies redlinks, and others not?
 * hmm, not really. I don't recall de-redlinking them. Will re-redlink. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. hamiltonstone (talk) 12:44, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Support: The listed issues have been addressed. Praemonitus (talk) 06:40, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: Please address the following:


 * The segment "astronomer Ian Ridpath has reported the symbolism likely came from him originally" is ambiguous and may cause some confusion.
 * changed "him" to "Plancius"...but now I have two "Plancius" in the one sentence... Cas Liber (talk · contribs)


 * "...close and fused into orbit facing one another": fused into orbit? Tidally-locked perhaps?
 * yup/changed - even a link - Tidal locking  Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:45, 13 April 2014 (UTC)


 * "...Two ultraluminous X-ray sources and one supernova have been observed in NGC 7424. SN 2001ig, one of the two supernovas within NGC 7424": is it one supernova or two?
 * one - no idea how that got there...removed now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:52, 13 April 2014 (UTC)


 * In the references, all instances of "Ian Ridpath" should be "Ridpath, Ian" for consistency.
 * fixed Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:47, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I made a few copy-edit fixes to address the remainder of my concerns. Otherwise, it looks good. Praemonitus (talk) 22:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Notes
 * Source review anyone?
 * Is Pi Gruis supposed to go to the dab page? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:18, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
 * yes - the name as such refers to two stars that are very close together yet unrelated - Pi1 and Pi2. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:49, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Comments by Dudley Miles
 * A very good article. I have a few minor quibbles.
 * "the red dwarf Gliese 832 is one of the closest stars with a planetary system to Earth." This reads a bit oddly to me. I would prefer "the red dwarf Gliese 832 is one of the closest stars to Earth which has a planetary system."
 * rejigged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:42, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Arrernte and Luritja should be linked. Note: Arrernte is a disambig.
 * hmm, they are linked aready....? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:42, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * "Its traditional name, Alnair, means "the bright one" and refers to its status as the brightest star in Grus. In reality it is around 380 times as luminous and has over 3 times the diameter of the Sun." I do not like "In reality" - perhaps refer to absolute luminosity instead.
 * removed - luminosity is absolute - so adjective unneeded Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:42, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * "Marking the right wing is Theta Gruis". I do not understand "marking the right wing", but that may be my ignorance.
 * It is a crane (bird), hence the star marks the imaginary wing of the bird.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:42, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Dudley Miles (talk) 19:54, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. I still do not like "marking the right wing" as I think other readers - not only me - may miss the allusion to the imaginary bird, but apart from that it looks fine. Dudley Miles (talk) 18:32, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Graham Colm (talk) 06:33, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
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