Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Guy Bradley/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Karanacs 16:04, 27 July 2010.

Guy Bradley

 * Nominator(s): María ( habla con migo ) 14:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

"One can not blame the plume hunters, who are generally poor men, for killing birds whose plumes are worth more than their weight in gold.... But I have no words with which to express my condemnation of the man who kills one of these birds wantonly." So said Frank Chapman, a champion of bird protection. In the late 19th-century, thousands, if not millions, of birds were killed every year so that fashionable women could adorn their hats with beautiful feathers. This decidedly morbid fashion craze came to a head in 1905, when early game warden Guy Bradley, a Florida cracker and ex-plume hunter himself, was shot and killed by poachers. Today he's considered a martyr of the early conservation movement.

I began work on the article earlier this month; it was featured as a DYK and promoted to GA by Sasata last week. I've had some sources and c-e help from Moni3, as well. All images are free, and all sources reliable. As usual, any comments and suggestions are much appreciated. María ( habla con migo ) 14:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment: a dab link to Palm Beach; no dead external links. Ucucha 14:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed dab, thanks! María ( habla con migo ) 14:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments -
 * What makes http://www.odmp.org/officer/2150-game-warden-guy-bradley a reliable source?
 * It's published by a non-profit organization, with info contributed largely in part by the National Law Enforcement Officer's Memorial Fund, Inc. If this isn't enough, I'll replace the two instances it's used. María ( habla  con migo ) 16:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This one I'll leave out for other reviewers to decide for themselves. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Removed per suggestion below from Ucucha. María ( habla con migo ) 18:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * In current ref 43, spell out National Park Service, non-Americans (and a lot of US citizens for that matter) won't have a clue what that abbreviation means.
 * Fixed. María ( habla con migo ) 16:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * the Hammond book - what makes it a reliable source? Lulu press is a vanity/self-publishing service. Also, the Isbn as given won't look up on world cat (another red flag).
 * Yes, I remember I had a difficult time finding it on Worldcat and the union catalog. Replaced the one instance it was used for a citation, and removed the work from "References". María ( habla  con migo ) 16:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Comments. Looking good in general; a few quibbles.
 * "After sporadically making their home in smaller towns"—I don't think "sporadically" fits well here. I just undid some vandalism from over two years ago on that Wiktionary page. Whatever.
 * I was having a Clueless moment there, I think; removed the word altogether, and added "eventually" later in the sentence. María ( habla con migo ) 18:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I would prefer that you remove the ODMP source Ealdgyth mentioned; it's only cited for a few things, and it seems unlikely that it's really the highest-quality available source to cover those facts.
 * Sure thing. I've removed the first citation in the lead, since the info repeated later in the article, and replaced the other one. María ( habla  con migo ) 18:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Could you add sources for the two awards named after Bradley?
 * Added citation from Davis, which covers both awards. María ( habla con migo ) 18:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Support. Comments addressed; seems comprehensive and engaging. But two more minor things:
 * Images look good. Ucucha 18:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why is "Turner Pub. Co." in one of the cited works abbreviated, when other publishers are not?
 * No reason except laziness. Fixed. María ( habla  con migo ) 18:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * What is "GORP" in one of the external links?
 * Great Outdoor Recreation Pages; added. (Gorp is also a nickname for trail mix. Very fitting, yeah?) María ( habla con migo ) 18:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Beware of the Gorps, though. Ucucha 18:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * These large creatures resemble sloths -- aww! They emit a horrible smell... and are mostly carrion eaters -- ...eww. For some reason I prefer to think of trail mix. ;) María ( habla  con migo ) 22:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Ucucha 18:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Nit-picking Comments
 * Why do you inflate his salary, but not the price of plume feathers?
 * No reason, just overlooked. Added it just now. María ( habla  con migo ) 22:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Should Gail Clement be listed as the author of ref 1?
 * Sure, added. María ( habla con migo ) 22:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You know what, Support If this is all I've got after half an hour, it's deserving of the little star. Courcelles (talk) 21:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Aww, thanks for the vote of confidence. Feel free to nitpick more if you see fit. :) María ( habla  con migo ) 22:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Support Mainly because I'm just thrilled someone else may get an Everglades-related article to FA. I'd read about Bradley in my various Everglades article work and didn't ever think to work on his article. I learned quite a bit and was glad to help out. Hope some of the Florida Photographic Collection images will make their way into the article. --Moni3 (talk) 02:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Took me a few days to get around to it, but I've finally added the FPC image of Bradley's monument (c1957) to the article, replacing the photo of the Everglades NP sign in the last section. Thanks for the heads up, Moni! María ( habla  con migo ) 18:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
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