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Hearst Tower (Manhattan)

 * Nominator(s): Epicgenius (talk) 13:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

This article is about another skyscraper in New York City. This time, it's the headquarters of the media conglomerate Hearst Communications, which has occupied the site for nearly a century. The tower is unusual both for its shape, readily recognizable by the large triangles on its facade, which double as its structural system. It is also unusual because the lowest part of the building was built 80 years before the tower itself, in anticipation of a high-rise development above it.

This page became a Good Article three years ago after a Good Article review by A person in Georgia, for which I am very grateful. After a recent copyedit by Miniapolis, which I also appreciate, I think the page is up to FA quality. I look forward to all comments and feedback. Epicgenius (talk) 13:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

750h
That's all I got Nice work! 750h+ 05:55, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Lede
 * Recommend linking facade.
 * Done. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hearst Magazine Building developer William Randolph Hearst had acquired the site for a theater in the belief that the area would become the city's next large entertainment district, but changed his plans to construct a magazine headquarters there. remove "had". Also do we have the date?
 * Done. He acquired the land starting in 1924, but changed the plans in 1926, so I've added the mid-1920s as a date range. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Site
 * Seventh Avenue should be linked.
 * Done. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Architecture
 * ...which its developer, Hearst Communications founder William Randolph Hearst, had envisioned for Columbus Circle in the early 20th century... remove "had"
 * Done. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Might just be personal preference but with The tower, designed by Norman Foster, was completed in 2006 – almost eight decades after the base was built., I recommend changing the dash to something like "The tower, designed by Norman Foster, was completed in 2006—almost eight decades after the base was built." Also I think "eighty years" in lieu of "eight decades" is better, as it may not be immediately clear how many years that represents. Saying "eighty years" is more straightforward. (Might also be personal preference too however).
 * I have changed the dash (since the emdash is my personal preference too, although MOS:DASH does say that either a spaced endash or an unspaced emdash is fine if used as punctuation). However, I think "almost eight decades" is actually the better wording here. If I wrote "almost 80 years", someone may be likely to go around and change that to "78 years" (since the article does mention the completion date of both the original building and the upper stories). The wording "eight decades" is used in this way to emphasize the lengthy time period, as many people know what a decade is already. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The tower's two sections are a combined.. ==> "The tower's two sections combined are"
 * Done. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The tower's stories are more deeply set back from the lowest six floors on the north, east, and south sides[20][21] and *has* "has" is a dangling modifier. Is it talking about the stories or the tower itself
 * I've reworded it (this was talking about the stories). Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Without the zoning amendment, the Hearst Corporation might have had to pay up to $10 million for additional air rights; the company had already utilized all the air rights above the Hearst Magazine Building. Changed utilized to used per a "superb" essay written George Orwell. Also remove "had".
 * Done. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * According to The New York Times change to "According to the New York Times". "The" and "A" should not be capitalised because they are articles.
 * I've reworded the sentence to avoid this matter altogether. You would ordinarily be correct per MOS:THECAPS, but The New York Times is sometimes considered the Times &#39;  full proper name. When I refer to the NYT, "the" has thus sometimes been re-capitalized after I lowercased it. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Link Permasteelisa
 * Done. Thanks for the initial comments. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * As a result of the attacks, however, Foster and Hearst decided to restrict visitor access to part of the atrium and relocate the tower's core away from the street. you might consider removing "however" per WP:HOWEVER
 * "The New York Evening Journal (one of Hearst's newspapers)" why isn't this italicised?
 * He considered borrowing an additional $35.5 million, partially to repurchase the Hearst Magazine Building, but ultimately reconsidered. ==> "He considered borrowing an additional $35.5 million to partially repurchase the Hearst Magazine Building, but ultimately reconsidered."
 * "In 1982, the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission (LPC) began considering city-landmark designation for the Hearst Magazine Building." why is this linked again
 * @750h+, thanks for the review. I've fixed the remaining comments you mentioned above, except for the third point. It wasn't that all of the funds were used to repurchase some of the building; it was that some of the funds were used to repurchase all of the building. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
 * i see. I'm in support of this article's promotion to FA status. 750h+ 13:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Image review

 * Don't use fixed px size
 * Fixed. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * File:Hearst_Tower_window_cleaning_incident_in_2013.jpg is a pretty poor-quality image. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I have now swapped this out. Thanks for the image review. Epicgenius (talk) 22:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments @Nikkimaria and @750h+. I will address these on Thursday. – Epicgenius (talk) 23:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Coordinator comment
More than three weeks in and just the single general support. Unless this nomination makes significant further progress towards a consensus to promote over the next three or four days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think it may be best if I withdraw this now and renominate this in two weeks. Sadly it has not been getting enough attention. (I really should review more FACs next time around, but as a WikiCup judge I aim to stay impartial by not reviewing WikiCup competitors' nominations, which rules out reviewing many of the current FACs). Epicgenius (talk) 13:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , for some reason it looks like the bot hasn't edited this FAC page yet or updated the article history section on the talk page. – Epicgenius (talk) 16:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

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