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Herman the Archdeacon

 * Nominator(s): Dudley Miles (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

This article is about a man who did not have a Wikipedia article until recently even though he was important enough to have an Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article. Once I got into it, I found him a fascinating character. and have given helpful feedback at Peer review. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Support. Another fine article; I didn't have much to say at the peer review and have nothing to add now. How many Anglo-Saxon kings do you have left to bring to FAC, by the way? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:33, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Mike. There are 9 Anglo-Saxon kings to go and 3 Danish. However, that includes Alfred the Great, which I have so far copped out of as it is such a mammoth project. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Image and source review—pass
 * Heavy reliance on Licence, but it looks like that's the main source that exists. I assume that the page numbers in Roman numerals are citing the introduction. No source checks done.
 * "Herman the Archdeacon... was probably born in Germany." The first sentence of an article usually summarizes the subject's importance. I would shift the birthplace information to the second paragraph and then add a paragraph break before "Herman was a colourful character". (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:17, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks . I havve rearranged as you suggest and also added a sentence. Dudley Miles (talk) 07:46, 14 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Comments
 * Herfast came into conflict with Baldwin, abbot of Bury St Edmunds Abbey over" - comma needed after Abbey
 * "Lanfranc, the Archbishop of Canterbury sent an" - need a comma after Canterbury
 * "sent an angry letter to Herfast, demanding [....] and concluding by demanding" - any way to avoid using "demanding" twice in the same sentence?
 * "according to Licence, "was to" - there's no closing quote mark later in this sentence, so it's unclear where the direct quotation ends
 * That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:38, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks . All done. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:59, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:18, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Support from Tim riley
The few quibbles I had were thoroughly dealt with at the peer review, and on rereading the article I can find no more to carp about. It seems to me to meet all the FA criteria. A good read, well and widely sourced, balanced and comprehensive (as far as a layman can judge) and pleasingly illustrated. I look forward to seeing it on our front page.  Tim riley  talk   20:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Source review - pass
The dead tree sources look good to me -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 12:13, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, just checking if this constitutes a source review pass? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * @Gog the Mild yes! - Guerillero  Parlez Moi 08:31, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Support Comments by JennyOz
Hello Dudley, I have a few questions and suggested links...
 * conflict with Baldwin, abbot of Bury St Edmunds Abbey, - Abbey already linked in previous sentence
 * Deleted. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Herfast's see was located - pipe wlink Episcopal see
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * both minsters had an income - pipewlink Minster (church)
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * He occupied a senior position there, probably precentor, and perhaps from about 1095 prior - prior is unfortunate word, maybe a comma after 1095 would help?
 * Revised. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The abbey's most important relics - wlink relics
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * important relics were the bloody undergarments of the saint - bloody sounds like fresh blood? Maybe bloodstained or bloodied? (Maybe just me.)
 * Changed to bloodstained. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle records the defeat - wlink
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * an advanced knowledge of Latin - poss wlink Medieval Latin
 * He would have known both.


 * which included Grecicisms - poss link to Grecicisms
 * Done - and corrected typo. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * and neologisms...Herman's -- ellipsis per Mos? ie ...
 * Done -seems a bit odd to me but no point in arguing with MOS. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * with his inner Christian". [25] Summarising - remove space before ref
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * miracle collection...Nor were its - ellipsis
 * institutional histories...Although - ellipsis
 * in English affairs...Herman's - ellipsis
 * All done Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * abbacy of New Minster, Winchester for his father - add geocomma
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * her Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article - add italics
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * the records of Norwich Cathedral, nor - wlink
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Note c fos.623–677 - add space per others
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Ref 38 Licence 2014. -page number/s?
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Winterbottom, Michael - editor-link Michael Winterbottom (academic)?
 * Done. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Cats - add Category:People from Bury St Edmunds?
 * Done - although I am not sure whether this is correct as he was not from Bury. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)


 * incoming links - is there an appropriate place in Edmund the Martyr or Herfast, to link this article?
 * I will look at this. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

That's all I could find to comment on. Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 03:41, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks . Replies above. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
 * All looks fine to me. Nice to meet you! Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 22:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

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