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Impossible Princess

 * Nominator(s): GirlsAlouud (talk &middot;&#32;contribs} 07:50, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

This article is about Australian recording artist and songwriter Kylie Minogue's sixth studio album Impossible Princess, released in November 1997. I have nominated this article because it has been extensively research in many materials (books, articles, newspapers, press releases, etc.) and many of the subject matter submitted in the article has been closely analysed, with many adjustments in making it as readable and well-presented. The article has currently been through the Good article standards for a very long time so I decided to nominate it.

Overtime, the article has lacked material that has been left out from press releases, magazine articles, books released by Minogue and others associating it and it was time to add the material that has been obtained by others. This material has included lengthily research on the songs featured on the album, the background, production and creation of the album, release dates and promotion and the legacy that the album has left. With analysed research and constant grammar/punctuation corrections being held in placed over the time of the albums extensive research, I believe that this article should be reviewed for an Featured Article nomination. I am happy in looking forward in the feedback received for this nomination. GirlsAlouud (talk &middot;&#32;contribs} 07:50, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Review by shaidar cuebiyar
I will review the article according to the FA criteria below, I reserve the right to come back to earlier sections as I work my way through. I expect to take about a week to complete my process: once I've finished my review I will post my decision.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC) A quick check at the FA toolbox finds problems:
 * Toolbox
 * 1) No alt text for most images: note should be different from captions.
 * 2) Nominator is not a major contributor to the article: have recent major contributors been consulted on whether they believe the article is up to FA standard? Can they help with meeting the criteria? Didn't see nominator had same account as a major contributor.03:06, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Eight dead links! Two suspicious ones.
 * 4) Three redirect links need anchoring.

These problems need to be fixed immediately.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:14, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Criterion 1a
It is— well-written: its prose is engaging, even brilliant, and of a professional standard;


 * 1) Knee-jerk reaction: has this been copy edited? There are considerable instances of grammar, clarity and tone fixes which are required.


 * Lead:
 * 1) The album became the longest project ever penned by Minogue since her success on the 1987's TV series Neighbours. This is confusing: it implies that Minogue wrote material for Neighbours in 1987.
 * 2) in Techno, drum and bass, > in techno, drum and bass,
 * 3) in which Minogue had assumed full creative control, contradicted earlier when five (or more) producers were listed (but no Minogue), see ¶1. If this is referring to the fact that she wrote all the lyrics then this is not the same as "full creative control".
 * 4) constantly writing lyrics down in her Chelsea, London home 'constantly' is hyperbole: chose a better word; 'down' is superfluous.
 * 5) were some of the examples of her feelings that were developed through her songwriter Confusing/awkward. Perhaps you mean provide examples of her feelings, which are displayed in her song writing
 * 6) the image projected towards the album > the image projected by the album
 * 7) Trim/break up the sentence starting with The album has ... for shipments of 70,000 copies.
 * 8) in Minogue's native Australia > in Australia We've already established that she is an Australian artist.
 * 9) In the UK, however > In the United Kingdom, however Use full name first time in Lead, first time in main text.
 * 10) the UK following the death of 'following'? It was released in Japan two months after Diana's death, and some four or so months later in Europe (including UK). The way its written implies Diana died after this album was first issued and then its name was changed in the UK but not for the rest of Europe. Needs to be clarified.
 * 11) Does the commercial disappointment of singles relate to Australia, UK or elsewhere?
 * 12) but lacked chart progression what does this mean?
 * 13) Critic's alike Clarify. Is the apostrophe needed?
 * 14) recognized Use Australian English.
 * 15) achieved worldwide domination tone down the hyperbole.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 16) Reduce overuse of frequent terms. e.g. "album" appears 22 times, "recognized" three times in two adjacent sentences, "single" three times in one sentence. Similar work reducing overused terms is required throughout the article.
 * 17) as one of Kylie's greatest triumphs > as one of the artist's greatest triumphs or similar.21:10, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 18) Chronology of ¶4 is vague: try to straighten out when the tour was, when did critics re-evaluate its status from earlier "fraud-like" to "greatest triumphs".
 * 19) Trim/re-word: The album's promotion was supported by the
 * 20) For ease of readability, there should be a greater consistency in the size of paragraphs: especially ¶1 cf. ¶3. Trim the latter, expand the former. Some long sentences need to be broken up. This same sentiment applies to other text sections.22:52, 28 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Background:
 * 1) When Minogue was at the brink of signing When? Try something like In late 1992, Minogue was at the brink of signing
 * 2) progressed no musical direction or development over the years Unclear.
 * 3) Although signed for three albums, Signed with Deconstruction or with PWL?
 * 4) The album became her lowest charting studio album Which album? Try That final release for PWL became her lowest charting studio album or similar.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:29, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) in both Australia and the UK > in both Australia and the United Kingdom First mention of acronym in main text: subsequently use UK.
 * 6) create the eponymous album > create her eponymous album in September 1994
 * 7) Her first album not being yielded by production team > As her first album not by the production team of
 * , all who helped out with the album This appears to be redundant.
 * 1) Trim Both Anderson and Brothers in Rhythm worked with Minogue previously, both working on her 1992 single "Finer Feelings". e.g. Both Anderson and Brothers in Rhythm had worked with Minogue previously – on her 1992 single, "Finer Feelings".
 * 2) Clarify The album was originally to be penned earlier, but Deconstruction believed they were not heading the right direction so recorded seventeen new songs
 * 3) It yelled three main singles; > It yielded three singles:
 * , and the album was successful in Australia and the UK > . The album achieved top 5 charting in Australia and the UK Greater precision.
 * 1) Clarify Beside the album's core success, there was not headlining tour nor extensive promotion What is meant by 'core success'? Should 'not' be 'no'?
 * , a duet with >, as a duet with
 * 1) The song's lyrics narrated > The lyrics narrate
 * 2) since hearing "Better the Devil You Know", saying > since hearing "Better the Devil You Know" (April 1990), saying wL & context.
 * 3) most successful single to date > most successful to date Redundant.
 * 4) Trim Sweden, Finland and managed to get inside the top twenty > Sweden, and Finland; and inside the top twenty
 * 5) and the United Kingdom > and the UK Acronym established earlier.
 * 6) Trim The song also managed to achieve critical acclaim > It achieved critical acclaim
 * 7) suggestion. She later Delete extra space.
 * 8) began a relationship > began a personal relationship Specify.
 * 9) on a mission of self-discovery Cliché.
 * 10) Trim her to the work of musicians including
 * 11) Being interview with NME, Clarify: NME is a publication she can hardly be interviewed with it. If you can't find the author(s) then try something like In an interview published in NME,
 * 12) Delete by commenting at the end of that sentence.
 * 13) for me." > for me". Use Australian English (commas and full stops appear after quote marks).shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:23, 28 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Recording and production
 * 1) Shouldn't recording and production occur after writing and composition? Seems non-chronological. Also, this is a huge first ¶: it needs to be broken up.
 * 2) Consider file caption: was one of the main producers to the album (re: Bradfield) cf. content in first sentence: were chosen as the main producers (re: Brothers in Rhythm' duo). Both statements can't be true. From content in the rest of the article I'd delete this whole phrase re:Bradfield from the caption, leaving the information about his producing two tracks.
 * 3) If a term has already been linked in the main text then delink it subsequently to reduce overlinking. This is a common problem in this article but I may not mention all instances; you will have to be vigilant in tracking them all down. e.g. change opening sentence to become: Brothers in Rhythm, a house music duo consisting of Steve Anderson and Dave Seaman,
 * 4) Clarify She expressed that with the creative ability and good formula– shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 21:10, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) and real instruments were added replace "real": samples and keyboards are just as real as guitars and drums.
 * 6) since her time on the Australian soap opera Neighbours specify, e.g. since her time acting in the Australian TV soap opera Neighbours (from 1986 to 1988)
 * 7) Trim Anderson later explained that the album took a long time to record > Anderson later explained that its lengthy time was
 * 8) ¶2 is too small by comparison.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:52, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 9) Trim Minogue asked the producers to create the album in a sense of Minogue's own personal mind and how she felt at the point of making the album > Minogue asked the producers to create a sense of her personal mind and how she felt while making the material
 * 10) Who's Richard Wilkins? wL him, and give his association i.e. presenter/reporter on which TV show?
 * 11) say about it [Impossible Princess] is it > say about [Impossible Princess] is it
 * 12) pleased with." > pleased with". If there are more of these, fix them too: I may not point out everyone of them.00:42, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 13) Recording sessions started in early 1996. cf. In 1995, Minogue and Brothers in Rhythm began recording rough demos... from ¶1. Inconsistency in chronology or description.
 * 14) Trim The first song recorded for the album was with Anderson and Seaman at Real World which was entitled "You're The One", which was a song that did not make it on the album. Too long-winded and self-contradictory. Also fix track title "You're the One".
 * 15) all which were delete "all"
 * 16) "Limbo" again? Now recorded at Sarm West, previous sentence recorded at Box sessions. Clarify.
 * 17) Avoid repetitive phrase (and incorrectly spelled this time) The next set of songs where
 * 18) Avoid repetition of information from ¶1.
 * 19) ¶3 is a little too long.
 * 20) Fix expression: plan a strategy in change her image
 * 21) Trim redundancy: allowed her to naturally change as she wanted to,
 * 22) Replace "perception" with a more appropriate word Minogue's perception of Impossible Princess
 * 23) Fix number: taking charges of the album
 * 24) Replace "take on": new image would take on a positive approach
 * Fix: comparing herself to a "pigeonhole." > by not confining herself to a "pigeonhole".
 * 1) Each morning, Minogue would present lyrics to Seaman from the night before. Seamen commented that; > Seaman described writing with Minogue:
 * 2) melodically".
 * 3) Soon after, Minogue had been collaborating with > Soon after, Minogue collaborated with
 * 4) wL first mention: James Dean Bradfield.
 * 5) Fix adjective to adverb with her previous but
 * 6) Fix bac
 * 7) wL first mention: Manic Street Preachers
 * 8) Be consistent with styling of deConstruction Records throughout the article.
 * 9) new album".
 * 10) Trim was approved by him. > was approved.
 * 11) Clarify and he wrote, composed and produced the entire song How was the entire song "produced" without any vocals by Minogue? Was it recorded by Bradfield as a demo with his own vocals? Did he provide all its instrumentation?
 * 12) Fix expression till which she had re-wrote
 * 13) Also, does Bradfield get co-credit for lyrics? or does he just get credit for music composition and co-production?02:48, 29 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Writing and composition
 * 1) See first point under 'Recording and production'.
 * ¶1: too big.
 * 1) Minogue began writing lyrics for Impossible Princess in 1996 Contradicted by earlier content e.g. "In 1995, Minogue and Brothers in Rhythm began recording rough demos ... consisted of Minogue's lyrical ideas over various backing tracks"; also infobox has recording commencing in October 1995.
 * 2) was constantly writing down words "constantly" is hyperbole.
 * 3) but called them > but described them as
 * 4) In an interview with Mag UK Similar problem to above, Mag UK is a publication, who was she interviewed by?
 * 5) Is the transcript of the video prepared by you (or other wikipedia editor)? If so, it contains errors including "strangly" and "diary's" (for plural). If it is in an original printed form, which is not linked, then place a [sic] plate after each such error. It also has misquoted Minogue in a number of places.
 * 6) At end of her quote: bad'".
 * 7) For an interview with Hey Hey It's Saturday Similar problem to above. Interviewer is Richard Stubbs: name, describe & wL him. Check ref seems to have been disrupted.
 * 8) Fix, She expressed
 * 9) saying that she hated referring herself as the songwriter on her songs I think you may have missed the humour of her interchange with Stubbs. From my perspective Stubbs' phrase "Damn I hate that" and Kylie's "I can't blame anyone but ... myself for that ... I hate that too" were both said with irony. Kylie is self-deprecatory, and she is smiling/smirking almost giggling.
 * 10) out".
 * 11) right".
 * 12) Consider the caption for the sound file: is this a quote? 13:10, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 13) Check overlinkage in ¶2: don't link terms previously linked in main text.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:14, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 14) Relationship with Bradfield and his group has already been established in a previous section. Not required here (unless you reorder the two sections – in which case it should be removed from whichever is the latter appearance).
 * 15) ¶3 is too big.
 * 16) Reword: became the first release to contain songs solely written by Minogue Did she write all the music too: or does this writing only refer to their lyrics? Or does it refer only to the small number of tracks for which she solely wrote both lyrics and music?
 * 17) End sentence with she co-wrote with Bradfield. If not, fix to suit.
 * 18) Clarify: with various producers Are all the co-writers also her producers?
 * 19) Delink: autobiographical. It's a common term.
 * 20) According to Chris True Give his association.
 * 21) Apostrophe? the albums musical composition
 * 22) Clarify: had been attributed due to the rapid 90's music change, also "90's" to "1990s"
 * 23) Who is Michael R. Smith?
 * 24) agreed the album had been influenced by techno music, > agreed with it showing techno influences.
 * 25) as Classic Pop Magazine found First get rid of "as", then fix per previous discussion about publications and identifying authors.
 * 26) 90's > 1990s
 * 27) Who is Nick Levine?
 * Fix: shop."
 * 1) Fix poor expressions: for taken on more extensive and viewed that Minogue knows
 * 2) Reduce repeated use of "note" in same sentence.
 * 3) Spelling: confort However avoid using a cliché.
 * 4) Delink A&R. If linkage needed place at first appearance in main text.
 * 5) due to the poor health of its head, Pete Hadfield > due to Hadfield's poor health Concision, also we've already heard about Hadfield being chair of Deconstruction.
 * 6) Qualify: with creative control over the project Were their other controllers of the project's creativity? e.g. record producers, songwriters? Note: this is short of claim in Lead of "full creative control".
 * 7) her mind, stating, > her mind,
 * 8) Expression: to which she does not appreciate
 * 9) telling Mixmag per previous comments about publications & authors.
 * 10) rock."13:10, 29 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Songs
 * ¶1: what can I say? This is huge! Divide it up (into 3 or 4), reduce long sentences, try to remove redundant/unnecessary detail. The latter point is especially relevant for tracks with their own articles.
 * 1) Reduce usage of "songs", "album", "Minogue", "release" and other overused terms. (This should also be applied to other sections, including previous ones).
 * 2) Reword: the first full-length written song by Minogue Why "full-length"?
 * 3) Redundant: The song was composed by Minogue herself Given previous sentence, how is this new information?
 * 4) Redundant: was noted as being Minogue's first ever song penned for an album and solely written by her Again? See previous sentences, it gets tiring reading the same information with slightly different wording. Choose one of them and go for it: the rest can be cut.
 * 5) state." This'll be the last of these which I'll point out, but you still have to find and fix all the rest.
 * 6) that other song > that another track,
 * 7) should have been released as the lead single, > should have been its lead single,
 * 8) should be the lead due
 * 9) Clarify: to its composed representation towards the album
 * 10) Delink: Deconstruction Records
 * 11) Deconstruction Records did not think Remove personification.
 * 12) Note: this discussion contradicts claim in Lead that Minogue "had assumed full creative control". She is being told which lead single to issue and what is to be the B-side: clearly she does not have full control.
 * 13) Trim: it would be a suitable single release and felt it was too risky, e.g. it would be suitable: it was too risky.
 * 14) Reword: so instead issued it as a b-side > Instead, it was issued it as a b-side
 * 15) Avoid redirects & wL only once for drum and bass.
 * 16) Reword, avoid redundancies in sentence starting with: The song was issued as a promotional single
 * 17) Redundant: to her then-boyfriend Stéphane Sednaoui. We already know his status. Also delink use last name only, both here, and any later appearance.
 * 18) contast
 * 19) Consider: to contrast Minogue's relationship with With what is the relationship being contrasted?
 * 20) photoshoot Australian English.
 * 21) collaborator William Baker, he wrote; > collaborator, William Baker, wrote:
 * 22) Minogue constantly tried to "constantly"?
 * 23) tried to higher her vocal notes change "higher"
 * 24) channels yet another different musical genre > delivers a new musical genre
 * 25) Nick Levine > Levine He's been named in full earlier.
 * 26) Trim: examined the musical composition for the song and wrote that "Oh, and in 'Cowboy Style', it has a track that manages to > examined its musical composition, which "manages to
 * 27) Delink: "Some Kind of Bliss"
 * 28) Clarify/qualify: The lyrical content was actually written totally different.
 * 29) as did producer Jeams Dean Bradfield > as did Bradfield Also loses misspelled first name.
 * 30) Clarify After creating the composition of the song, they both mixed their own lyrics and create a whole new set. Perhaps: After composing its music, they mixed their suggested lyrics to create a whole new set. or similar.
 * 31) Recording/production details should be elsewhere. If you use the content, delink London, and leave off England (this is default for London – any other city of that name would need further defining).
 * 32) Critical reception should be elsewhere.
 * 33) was a similar approach to > used a similar approach to
 * 34) Trim: which features instrumentation of electric guitars, > which features electric guitars,
 * 35) Reduce use of "features" in three adjacent sentences.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:37, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 36) Caption, fix: Bjork > Björk
 * Fix: in the mid-90s and
 * 1) Who introduced Björk & Manson to Minogue? when introduced by Nick Cave. cf. Sednaoui also introduced her to the work of both need clarification/reconciling.
 * ¶2: too big.
 * Fix: out off the 12 tracks
 * 1) synthesiser Australian English.
 * 2) to Chicago, USA drop USA (its default).
 * 3) revered DJ/producer > DJ-producer Drop puffery, fix incorrect use of slash.
 * 4) formats.) > formats).
 * 5) Remove redundancies: In 2011, Minogue sang an acoustic version while on her 2011 tour Aphrodite World Tour
 * 6) In 2012, the > In the next year, the
 * 7) song didn't make the tracklist > song did not make the track list Avoid contractions (except in direct quotes or song/album titles); use Australian English
 * 8) Who is Tom Parker?
 * 9) Delink electronic music, as being covered by electronica earlier.
 * 10) Change: subtety unless source spells it thus, in which case use sic plate.02:08, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 11) the second song self-penned > the second entirely self-written and composed
 * 12) Consider sentence starting with: Parker said that Where does the quote start?
 * 13) Delink dance-pop.
 * 14) Fix was compared to songs and was critically compared by critics in same sentence.
 * 15) Clarify: and said although not as spiritual Who said? The critics? Cinquemani?
 * 16) Also check quote marks for rest of sentence: what's in and what's not?
 * 17) Trim: Another song which was recorded entitled "Free" > Another track, "Free",
 * 18) "Drunk", and incorporated similar
 * 19) Delink rock/rock music: common term.
 * 20) the albums most Use possessive.
 * 21) The song was the only song on the album Really?
 * 22) Clarify: was assisted by Bradfield and Nick Jones. Was the assistance with lyrics, music or both? For Jones: wL & provide association.
 * 23) Sentence fragment continuing with and was commended as: where does the quote start?
 * 24) Is an heart in the quoted section? Otherwise fix.
 * 25) More discussion re: lead single. This is getting very repetitive.
 * 26) Clarify: This decision was later manipulated by Steve Anderson Who had "full creative control"?
 * 27) Meaning: Due to improbable decisions,
 * 28) Delink: frustration.
 * 29) Check, word missing: was written Minogue, Vauk and Ball cf. previous claim of another song being the only one on the album which was not written by Minogue on her own.
 * 30) Steve Anderson > Anderson
 * 31) Check: this track of "Too Far"
 * 32) to be released as the lead single from the album instead of "Some Kind of Bliss." His reasoning behind this was because he believed those two > to be the lead single as he believed those two Trimmed: this issue has already been raised.
 * 33) Clarify represented the overall production on how the album was
 * 34) but Deconstruction Records did not back this decision replace Deconstruction Records with a person e.g. Hadfield or someone else.
 * ¶3: too big.
 * 1) Delink previously linked terms.
 * 2) Written by Minogue, Ball and Vauk
 * 3) Bjork's > Björk's
 * 4) the albums title Possessive.
 * 5) Clarify: in which was displayed while
 * Fix: late 90's era
 * 1) with Nick Levine from Digital Spy commenting > by Levine, who commented First name and association should be at first appearance, not needed here.
 * 2) While there fix the quote marks: both on 'impossible princess' and at end of the quoted section.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:09, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Unreleased material
 * ¶1: too small. Expand or combine with nearby content.
 * 1) Note that the sub-Heading is "Unreleased material". If any tracks appear on live, compilation, re-release or bonus versions then they are not "unreleased". Considering the content of this section a different sub-Heading is needed.
 * 2) Trim: The first song ever recorded for the album was a track entitled "You're the One". > The first track ever recorded for the Impossible Princess project was "You're the One".
 * 3) It was written by
 * 4) Rewrite: Despite this, the song was never released commercially or featured in the final tracking list and a very rough demo has surfaced the internet since. > It was not officially released although a very rough demo later surfaced on the internet.
 * 5) Clarify: that became visible were
 * 6) Trim: but neither song made it on the final cut off the album, > but none made the final cut,
 * 7) Is Other Sides a CD single or an EP? If the former, it should not be italicised. Likewise for Live and Other Sides.
 * 8) Meaning: The first commercially worldwide unreleased track was "Free".
 * Fix: which they were in the sessions
 * 1) Plural: Both the track featured
 * 2) Change "never": but was never commercially recorded
 * 3) Clarify: has never been surfaced While there, fix end of this sentence and start of next one.
 * 4) that were recorded during the process of Impossible Princess > which were recorded during Impossible Princess sessionsshaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:03, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 5) Style: "Take Me with You"
 * 6) Trim: this compilation and her Confide in Me: The Irresistible Kylie compilation. > this compilation and Confide in Me: The Irresistible Kylie.
 * 7) Reword: A new track entitled "This Girl" was released on the album and written by Minogue and Anderson. > A new track, "This Girl", written by Minogue and Anderson, appeared on this version.
 * 8) Reword: were finally used in the cutting for the repackaging of the album. > were used on the repackaged form.
 * 9) Fix expression: never been released fully and have either been leaked or snipped.
 * 10) Adjust laundry list of possible tracks: only use those which have a reliable source.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:52, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Title and artwork
 * 1) Consider quote box: start with The shoot was so very
 * 2) Kylie Minogue on about the 3D cover > Kylie Minogue on the 3D cover
 * 3) Trim: The name of the album is a reference to a book of poetry written by Billy Childish titled Poems to Break the Hearts of Impossible Princesses > The title references Poems to Break the Harts of Impossible Princesses (1994) by Billy Childish. Note: book title has "Harts" not "Hearts".
 * 4) Trim: The book was given to Minogue as a gift by Nick Cave, and she has said that the poems summarized where she was at that time in her life. > It was given to Minogue as a gift by Cave; she said its poems summarized where she was at that time in her life.
 * 5) She recalled "The first time
 * 6) She discussed the name by saying "It is practically > She elaborated "It is practically
 * 7) In the United Kingdom and Europe, the album's title was changed to Kylie Minogue following the death of Diana, Princess of Wales in August 1997. > Due to the death of Diana, Princess of Wales in August 1997, the title was changed to Kylie Minogue for the UK and the rest of Europe.
 * 8) Reword: the album was delayed in both Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom as the period of timing and titling was deemed "inappropriate." > its appearance was delayed in Australia, New Zealand and the UK as the timing was "inappropriate".
 * 9) Don't place a cquote so close to the quote box. They distract from each other: some displays have considerable interference. Decide which is more important as the representative quote for this section: artwork or title. The other should be re-incorporated into the text.22:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 10) to represent Minogue's three-dimensional personality depicted on the album. > to graphically represent her greater depth of personality. –shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:24, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 11) Trim: required multiple static cameras and for Minogue to pose for long periods of time, which she quickly grew tired of > required multiple static cameras and she grew tired of posing for long periods of time.
 * 12) Reword: To achieve the background of swirling lights, Sednaoui dressed from head to toe in black, ran and jumped around Minogue with a kitchen light covered with plastic gels. > Its background of swirling lights was achieved by Sednaoui, who was dressed in black-out suit, he ran around the singer with a light covered by plastic gels.
 * 13) Véronique
 * 14) Explain: was all handled actuality Is this a specialist term or simply an error in expression?
 * wL: Junya Watanabe and Comme des Garçons . Note correction of latter.
 * 1) Poor expression: only to perceive a more boyish look
 * 2) Check source, does it actually write: all the other shoots were have done were always fun
 * 3) While at the quote, close with: easy".
 * 4) Last sentence in ¶ has too many "release". Also remove "another": its unnecessary.
 * 5) mutual appreciation > shared appreciation
 * 6) Trim: the photographs taken for Minogue's sixth album Impossible Princess > the cover photographs
 * 7) " GBI: German Bold Italic "
 * 8) Delete: Several photographs were taken during the production of the album.
 * 9) Trim: Some of them were featured in Minogue's self-released books, including Kylie: La La La which contain photographs with her posing with neon lighting and with infrared effects but most remain unreleased. > Her self-released book, Kylie: La La La, includes photographs from this shoot with her posing with neon lighting and infrared effects but most remain unpublished.
 * 10) Trim: These pictures featured Minogue posing in front of castles and city backdrops, representing the many kingdoms of an impossible princess. > Some show Minogue in front of castles and city backdrops, representing the many kingdoms of an impossible princess.
 * 11) albums photo shoot Possessive.
 * 12) Reword:, who felt they were more darker and mysterious > : they felt the artwork was darker and more mysterious
 * 13) Consider the quote at end of final ¶: Is it necessary to repeat almost the same content as the first half?
 * 14) Justification for made her fall into depression during is not found in the cited text: in fact Minogue claims "and do not believe I got into a terrible depression, never thought that was it".shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:33, 30 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Release and promotion
 * 1) Reduce usage: "album", "release", "issue" & other repetitious terms. Delink previously linked terms.
 * 2) Adjust ¶ sizes.
 * 3) Expand opening: Impossible Princess had been delayed several times before its initial release on 1 November 1997, in Japan, by BMG with a bonus track, "Tears".
 * 4) According to the infobox, the album was still being recorded until May 1997, reconcile this with the current second sentence.
 * 5) Successive dates should be summarised more efficiently; e.g. The original proposed appearance was in early January 1997, this was pushed back to May, then September but it remained unreleased.03:42, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) Explain: to accommodate the album
 * 7) Trim: Despite the Japan release, the album was eventually delayed in Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom particularly due to the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.–shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:05, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 8) Trim: The album was then released in Australia by Mushroom Records in early 1998 while the album was released in the United Kingdom and Europe in mid-1998 by Deconstruction Records. > Early in 1998 it appeared in Australia on Mushroom Records; then in mid-Year in the UK and the rest of Europe by Deconstruction Records.
 * 9) Trim: majority off all Impossible Princess tracks Also "off" > "of"
 * 10) included in many of her compilation albums > included on her compilation albums
 * 11) Unnecessary: To accommodate the album,
 * 12) Possessive: the albums purchase
 * 13) End Billboard quote at: territory".
 * 14) disappointment, plans > disappointment, those plans. When?
 * 15) Consider file caption: specify when the photo was taken, no italics for a tour name, wL to tour's article.
 * 16) Insert missing word: embarked a promotional tour
 * 17) Trim & delink common terms: Minogue performed in Singapore and traveled to different cities in her native Australia including Melbourne, Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane. > Minogue performed in Singapore and then followed with Australian state capitals Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney and Adelaide.
 * 18) Trim: She then traveled to Auckland, New Zealand for a concert and finished off in Hong Kong to finished the promotional tour. > Next was Auckland and she finished off in Hong Kong.
 * 19) Delete sentence on first and last visits: not needed.
 * 20) Possessive: the albums European release
 * 21) After the above trims, ¶2 will be too small.
 * 22) ¶3 is too big. It starts with To support the album, Minogue embarked an Australian and European tour Intimate and Live. Wasn't ¶2 tour in support of this album?
 * 23) Reduce use of: "production" and "tour".
 * 24) Give time span for Intimate and Live tour.
 * 25) Give month for Mardi Gras.
 * 26) it more off a
 * 27) Baker was previously introduced: no wL, no association needed.
 * 28) Trim: a band mainly consisting of members of Australia's John Farnham band, with added backing vocalists. > a backing group – mainly John Farnham's band members – with added backing vocalists.
 * 29) Puffery: extremely rave reviews
 * 30) performend
 * 31) Put unreleased track last in tour performance set.
 * 32) For laundry list of other appearances: only give ones not previously noted in above sections. Only wL to actual articles, remove wL from any previously linked.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:42, 31 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Critical response
 * 1) Adjust ¶ sizes.
 * 2) Reduce overuse of terms, including "review".
 * 3) Hyperbole: overwhelmingly positive Only 10/10 or 9/10 (or equivalent) ratings?
 * 4) Reverse hyperbole: decidedly negative Does this include Digital Spy rating of 4/5?
 * 5) Delink Billboard.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:26, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 6) True notes that critics are not "overwhelmingly positive". Contradicts hyperbole.
 * 7) Trim: he lambasted Minogue's collaborations with James Dean Bradfield, > he lambasted her collaborations with Bradfield,
 * 8) Delink but italics on: Digital Spy
 * 9) De-italicis but keep wL on: Amazon.com
 * 10) Adjust: Music Week was less than impressed give author, or similar.
 * 11) Adjust: Who compared give author, or similar.
 * 12) Re-word: compared Minogue's vocal style to > compared Minogue's singing to Avoid repetition of "vocal style"
 * 13) Trim, re-word: crediting her for her range in vocal styles displayed on the album. > praising her range in vocal styles.
 * 14) Trim, re-word: The magazine also commented that the album was a major step towards Minogue gaining credibility in the music industry. > The author also commented that it was a major step towards her gaining credibility in the music industry.
 * 15) Adjust start of next sentence: Michael R. Smith, in The Daily Vault, cited it as the singer's best album; his positive review continued:
 * 16) catalog Australian English.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 21:02, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 17) A reviewer from the publication wrote > The reviewer noted
 * Fix: reviewer late said
 * 1) Missing word? They concluded writing
 * 2) Last ¶ is too small.
 * 3) Delink & de-italicise: FasterLouder (its a redirect anyway).
 * Fix: of the '90s
 * 1) Fix secondary quote marks: left "the real Kylie" fully –shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:23, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Commercial performance
 * 1) Exaggeration: proved to be an all-round success in Australia
 * 2) AMR is not used for charting in 1998: only use ARIA Albums Chart.
 * 3) Clarify: It became the highest debuting album and the only debut album on the chart for the week end 25 January 1998. Note: The Sundays' album, Static & Silence, is also a new entry into the top 50 for the week ending on 25 January 1998. However the ARIA albums chart is a top 100; neither Impossible Princess nor Static & Silence are debut albums; their entry position(s) into the top 100 are not available at the source cited: they may have entered earlier at a lower position in range, 50–100.
 * 4) achieve a platinum recognition Use a better word than "recognition". Check fact: Let's Get to It was also certified as platinum.
 * 5) In the United Kingdom use UK (twice in this ¶)
 * 6) Where's a wL to UK Albums Chart ?
 * 7) success was very limited Specify type of success. Also, what is meant by "very limited"?
 * 8) Once again, too much use of "album", e.g. the album entered the albums chart and others.
 * 9) Poor expression: in compare to the, which stayed in for sixteen, was deemed Minogue's worst selling studio album to date due to a variety of reasons, the lack of devoted promotion with a tour, a benefit of low sales
 * 10) criticized Australian English
 * 11) Specify: Virgin Radio, if UK Virgin Radio is meant then pipe link to UK Virgin Radio, if not adjust as needed.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Criterion 1b
comprehensive: it neglects no major facts or details and places the subject in context;

Criterion 1c
well-researched: it is a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature. Claims are verifiable against high-quality reliable sources and are supported by inline citations where appropriate;

Criterion 1d
neutral: it presents views fairly and without bias; and

Criterion 1e
stable: it is not subject to ongoing edit wars and its content does not change significantly from day to day, except in response to the featured article process.

Criterion 2a
It follows the style guidelines, including the provision of— a lead: a concise lead section that summarizes the topic and prepares the reader for the detail in the subsequent sections;

Criterion 2b
appropriate structure: a system of hierarchical section headings and a substantial but not overwhelming table of contents; and

Criterion 2c
consistent citations: where required by criterion 1c, consistently formatted inline citations using either footnotes or Harvard referencing (Smith 2007, p. 1)—see citing sources for suggestions on formatting references; for articles with footnotes, the meta:cite format is recommended. The use of citation templates is not required.

Criterion 3
Media. It has images and other media, where appropriate, with succinct captions, and acceptable copyright status. Images included follow the image use policy. Non-free images or media must satisfy the criteria for inclusion of non-free content and be labeled accordingly.

Criterion 4
Length. It stays focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail and uses summary style.

Review status

 * 1) In progress: just started.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:57, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 2) Checked toolbox outputs: problems need to be fixed.01:14, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * 3) Lead, Background, Recording and production, Writing and composition, Songs, Unreleased material, Title and artwork, Release and promotion: per criterion 1a: more to follow.03:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC)05:26, 28 August 2014 (UTC)02:57, 29 August 2014 (UTC)13:12, 29 August 2014 (UTC)06:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)03:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Nick-D
Oppose While it's good that this significant album has been given detailed coverage, the article's prose quality is well below FA standard at present. As some examples from the lead: The same kind of imprecise and over-long wording and excessive detail appears throughout the article, and I'm afraid that it needs a lot of work to be of FA standard. Nick-D (talk) 06:28, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The second last and last sentences of the 1st para both start with 'The album'
 * "Musically, the album is predominately a pop and dance album" - first word is surplus
 * "The album represented another, and most radical change in Minogue's musical style" - no previous changes have been noted, so the comparison here isn't useful
 * "making it a departure from her previous work" - surplus given what starts this sentence (the sentence as a whole is somewhat convoluted)
 * "There are many themes associated with the album, as a result of her exploration of her celebrity status, self-identification as an artist, her relationship with Stéphane Sednaoui and her feelings towards her life at that point" - unclear and written in the passive voice
 * " Songs like "Jump" and "Limbo" were some of the examples of her feelings that were developed through her songwriter" - also unclear (the songs can't be feelings - they were presumably about her emotions, but I'd suggest that this is too much detail for the lead)
 * "Many critics complimented its maturity and personal subject matter, while others called it unbelievable and felt the image projected towards the album was fraud-like" - unclear. I suspect that the critics who were sceptical found the album to be unconvincing, and not believable. "fraud-like" is incredibly strong.
 * " Evidently, the tour achieved rave reviews from critics" - why 'evidently'?
 * " Critic's alike had considered the album to be an example of Minogue's constant "reinventions".[8] Dubbing her as "Indie Kylie", it had been recognized as one of Kylie's greatest triumphs and had been recognized as a big step forward in terms of her musical composition" - repeats material already noted in the lead
 * " In 2003, Q magazine hailed the album as a "hidden gem", praising it as a lost pop masterpiece." - ditto (and why single out Q magazine's comments published only 5 years after the album was released)
 * "The album was recognized for its critical comparison of Madonna's Ray of Light, which was released at a similar time but achieved worldwide domination and critical success" is also rather difficult to follow, and written in the passive voice.

Closing comment -- I'm afraid this article has been nominated prematurely for FAC. Aside from the many prose and style issues raised above, a good many statements are uncited, which is not acceptable at FA-level (nor at GA-level for that matter). I'll therefore be archiving it shortly. After addressing the shortcomings noted, I'd suggest a Peer Review before re-nominating at FAC. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 14:55, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 14:57, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
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