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 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 16:28, 20 September 2015.

Jeannette Expedition

 * Nominator(s): Brianboulton (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

This is the sad story of a failed expedition to find the North Pole by ship, following a supposed warm-water current through the polar ice cap. The current proved to be a fiction; the ship was crushed and sunk after nearly two years of largely aimless drifting in the pack ice, and only a third of the 33-man complement eventually reached safety. The discovery, years later, of relics from the Jeannette, floating on the ice thousands of miles from the sinking, inspired Fritdjof Nansen to undertake his famous Fram expedition. It's a while since I was engaged with polar history, so I hope the prose isn't too rusty; I am indebted to a stellar team of peer reviewers for their thoughtful comments and suggestions, and especially to User:Finetooth for providing the map. Brianboulton (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Support I had my say at the peer review, I'm satisfied with what took place there. Well done.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support – I struggled to find something to quibble at during the peer review, and can't find anything now. Brian B's temporary espousal of AmEng seems to my inexpert eye to be impeccable (and has the Wehwalt seal of approval). The article is beautifully written, widely cited, balanced and well illustrated. Clearly of FA quality – and strangely moving too. –  Tim riley  talk    21:44, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support – I took part in the peer review, and all my concerns were addressed. In the interest of full disclosure, I should add that I made the linear expedition map using a base map and data tracked down and provided to me by Brian. Finetooth (talk) 23:06, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support – Minor comments addressed at the peer review and the other reviews by my colleagues above have only strengthened the article further. Wonderful stuff!   Cassianto Talk   23:19, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Support As above, found little fault with it during the peer review. A fine article and an enjoyable read.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:08, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

My sincere thanks to all the above for their contributions at peer review, which were particularly helpful. In the introductory blurb, above, I ought to have made a special mention of Wehwalt's guidance in the yankification of the prose (if that word is allowed). I hope it reads OK to transatlantic eyes. I am further grateful for the support and generous comments given above. Brianboulton (talk) 15:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Sources review
 * As the PR was well-attended I tweaked a few of the references to bring them into line (all minor stuff) and I've added a subsequent tweak or two around the dates since then. The only addition I spotted on re-scanning this morning is that the incredibly minor point that you have "Hartford, CONN", but all the other states are written as "Boston, Mass" in lover case. The only additional thing I'd suggest is that the weblinks for the few websites you have are all archived to stop link rot - I'll get round to that shortly. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:18, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I would be most grateful if you would do this, even more if you left a brief note on my talk page telling me how to go about it, so that in future I don't have to rely on others to do this useful task. Brianboulton (talk) 15:38, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * All done. - SchroCat (talk) 10:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Comments by Squeamish Ossifrage
As noted by SchroCat above, the state abbreviation in the DeLong and Newcomb source needs to be restyled to match that in the other referenced works. Additionally, I do not believe Numismaster.com (citation #176) constitutes a reliable source. However, that's not really a problem, because it can be entirely replaced with:

I find nothing else wrong with the referencing, and a cursory prose review was entirely satisfactory. No problems with image licensing and attribution (it helps when they're almost all PD-old!), although I do note that no alt text is provided. Conditional support on correction of those reference issues, but there's no reason this shouldn't get its bronze star. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 15:41, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The information on the medals was added by another editor, more knowledgeable than me about numismatics. and I took his judgement that the Numismaster source was reliable. Yours is undoubtedly better, and I have changed to it. I have also standardised the US state abbreviations, as requested by SchroCat. Many thanks for your comments and for taking time to check out the images, and for your intention to support. Brianboulton (talk) 18:02, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Support on prose etc. A fine piece, interesting and informative. - SchroCat (talk) 10:33, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Many thanks Brianboulton (talk) 21:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Image comment: anything using PD-old also needs an indication of why the image is PD in the US - there are a few images that don't have this yet. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:04, 13 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks: I have acted as follows:
 * Barentz map: I have replaced this with a much more useful one – Mercator's 1606 North Pole map, which is licenced by PD-Art
 * Petermann: The image was published in Illustrirte Zeitung in 1868. I have added the PD-US licence tag
 * St Michaels: This image was for decorative purposes only. Looking at it now, it doesn't appear to be all that decorative. I'm sure it is PD, but it's not worth the trouble of searching out the correct licencing tag, so I have deleted it from the article.

Please let me know if you think there are other licencing issues. Brianboulton (talk) 21:28, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

-- Laser brain  (talk)  16:28, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
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