Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/John Babcock/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 14:35, 23 September 2010.

John Babcock

 * Nominator(s): Canadian   Paul  17:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because I feel that it meets all the criteria of a featured article, and over half a year has passed since the subject's death, making it less susceptible to major changes in the future. It had an A-class review at the Military History Wikiproject where all concerns were addressed, but did not pass because it did not attract enough reviewers. It did, however, pass a Good Article review and was kept during the GA sweeps process. Canadian  Paul  17:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Comment. No problems with dablinks; the external link to Video Interview with John Babcock is dead. PL290 (talk) 19:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find it anywhere else, so I removed it, as it was merely supplemental. Canadian   Paul  23:24, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Comments -
 * Newspaper and magazine titles in the refs should be in italics. A few are, but the rest aren't, so it should be consistent.
 * Need a page number for current ref 8 (Holmes...)
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool (except for the deadlink as noted above) Ealdgyth - Talk 19:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed, hopefully. I replaced the Holmes reference because I couldn't find the information again in a search... plus I think it was referring to British soldiers anyhow... Canadian   Paul  23:24, 13 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Image copyright review: The only image is a pre-1923 one which is public domain. Stifle (talk) 14:19, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Weak oppose - interesting article, and I'd love to be able to support, but I don't think it's quite at FA standard. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:08, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Canadian spelling and conventions only please - particularly "First World War" vs "World War I" (and Two)
 * Is the township called South Frontenac Township or simply South Frontenac? Be consistent
 * Maclean's should be italicized
 * "On growing up in the area, Babcock claims" - not fond of this phrasing, and since he's now deceased it should probably be past tense
 * "He would return to the area in 1919...but soon after left for the United States" - grammar
 * "Nevertheless, Babcock's relatives continue to work at the Crater Dairy farm...and the community grew to greatly respect John" - phrasing
 * Specify $C vs $US - it's unclear for some values
 * Some overlap between sections, and some statements contradict each other
 * "Babcock then undertook an ocean voyage to England and, in Liverpool, he was stationed with the 26th Reserve and sent to Bexhill-on-Sea where he trained with about 1,300 others, about a third of whom were veterans from battles in France" - quite a long sentence, could it be split?
 * "There Babcock underwent a physical, where it was discovered that he was underage. He was designated status A-4: physically fit, but underage.[6] At the time, the minimum age for combat was eighteen.[8] Babcock was turned down, but managed to make it all the way to Halifax by train before he was stopped by the company commander.[6]" - a bit repetitious
 * "Soldiers holding acting ranks in the Canadian forces receive the salary and allowances of the rank, but can be reverted to a previous rank at any time due to their lack of the necessary training or experience to hold that position permanently" - the source uses past tense for this information - is it still true today?
 * What head tax? Please explain briefly
 * "moved there in the 1921" - missing word?
 * Chronology in the first part of "After World War I" is unclear - did he move to the US before or after becoming an electrician? Before or after running the light plant? If before, when did he return to Canada? Section needs a bit of rearranging/clarifying
 * Which wife produced the children?
 * Being a Canadian veteran isn't necessarily the same thing as being a veteran of the Canadian military
 * "He was proud of his status as the last surviving Canadian World War I veteran" - not supported by the source, and the rest of the article seems to suggest otherwise
 * Did he receive greetings from the Queen for his 107th or 109th birthday?
 * Don't repeat wikilinks, especially not in close proximity
 * In References, be consistent in whether authors are listed first-name-first or last-name-first
 * Elizabeth II ref should be formatted in a manner consistent with the other refs
 * Name publishers consistently - CBC News or CBC.ca? etc
 * Page for refs 5 and 7?
 * Ref 17: if this is a web source, why is there no link or retrieval date?


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