Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/John Tavares (ice hockey)/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Dabomb87 01:18, 27 September 2009.

John Tavares (ice hockey)

 * Nominator(s): MacMedtalk stalk 14:29, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because I feel that it meets all of the required criteria for a featured article. I have added alt text as well as fixed the deadlinks that were present in the article prior to my arrival. MacMedtalk stalk 14:29, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Support: I recently went over pretty much every details of style and content with MacMed, and I have no objections left. Hence support. Headbomb {{{sup|ταλκ}}κοντριβς – WP Physics} 14:34, 22 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments -
 * What makes the following reliable sources?
 * http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10024/2009_prospects_qa_with_john_tavares/
 * Per the MOS, link titles in the references shouldn't be in all capitals, even when they are in the original
 * Current ref 38 (Todd Kimberley...) first, should be Kimberley, Todd, to fit with the rest of the references, second it is lacking a publisher.
 * Current ref 39 (New York Islanders. NHL.com) seems to be lacking an url?
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:48, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Not quite there yet (Cr. 1a). I found quite a few nit-picks just in the lead; an independent copy-edit of the whole article would be useful.
 * Please see User:Tony1/Beginners'_guide_to_the_Manual_of_Style: "3-year". Hyphenate "entry level contract"?
 * Done. MacMedtalk stalk
 * WP:LINK advises not link adjacent items if possible. It's a rule of thumb often broken with good reason, but in the opening sentence, "centre" is ice-hockey centre, and that link-target will take the reader swiftly to the "ice hockey" article if they want the more general link. "is a Canadian professional ice hockey centre who" or "is a Canadian professional ice hockey centre who". Up to you.
 * Done, I think. "is a Canadian professional centre in ice hockey, and he was..." Better? MacMed<sup style="color:red;">talk <sub style="color:black;">stalk
 * "In 2009, he set a new OHL record for career goals as he finished the season with 215, two more than former record holder Peter Lee." Is that a "because/since as" or a "while as"? I genuinely don't know. "As" is usually better avoided as a badly engineered word in English. Here, simplifying might avoid the issue: "In 2009, he finished the season with a career total of 215 goals, breaking Peter Lee's OHL record by more than two." PL is linked, too, which leaves no doubt. Did I get it right? Don't know what OHL means. And is this right?
 * Done.<b style="color:green;">MacMed</b><sup style="color:red;">talk <sub style="color:black;">stalk
 * "He" starts a new para, straight after "Peter Lee". But you don't mean PL.
 * Done.<b style="color:green;">MacMed</b><sup style="color:red;">talk <sub style="color:black;">stalk
 * What does "TBA–present" mean? Please see MoS on en-dash spacing.
 * Redundant "also". Redundant "additionally".
 * Is "medal" a verb? If it has become common parlance among sports writers, it still sounds very odd here. Tony   (talk)  10:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oppose based on criteria 1(e). The start of the NHL season is October 1, and Tavares will make his NHL debut October 3. Over the weeks following, he will make news for playing his first game, scoring first goal and/or point, and general scrutany as befitting a first overall draft choice joining the NHL. This will inevitably come back to the article, with constant updates and changes to the article as it switches focus from his OHL/junior career to his NHL/professional career. Because of this, the editors at WP:HOCKEY have resisted nominating the article for FA as of now. We believed that the nomination should wait until at least a few weeks after the start of the season, when the major upheavel of the article will be complete, and Tavares settles into his role as a professional ice hockey player. Kaiser matias (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Nomination withdrawn based on the points made by Kaiser matias above. <b style="color:green;">MacMed</b><sup style="color:red;">talk <sub style="color:black;">stalk 00:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


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