Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Judah P. Benjamin/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Ian Rose (talk) 05:56, 28 June 2014 (diff).

Judah P. Benjamin

 * Nominator(s): Wehwalt (talk) 13:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

This article is about... a man of great brilliance, who rose to prominence in the legal profession on two continents, of whom, by his own choice, we know too little. Senator, Secretary of State for the Confederacy, English barrister: he had an incredible life, but he remains obscure. I have no hopes of doing anything about it except to write him the quality article he deserves.Wehwalt (talk) 13:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Image review:
 * File:Confederate 2 dollars (1862).jpg - Fine copyright wise, but the source link is to the old file
 * File:Gamble Plantation Judah.P.Benjamin Memorial.JPG - Fine
 * File:ConfederateCabinet.jpg - Fine
 * File:Judah Benjamin.jpg - Fine
 * File:JPBenjamin.jpg - Fine
 * File:Judah P Benjamin crop.jpg - Fine
 * File:Judah Benjamin Signature.svg - Fine copyright wise, but could use some categorizing
 * File:Jpb grave.jpg - Fine. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:38, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I've taken care of those. Thank you for the image review.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:16, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Great.
 * Support on prose and images. My prose issues were dealt with at PR last month, and the quality has only improved. Good work! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:24, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you indeed for that.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:31, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment. I copyedited the article at Peer Review per my copyediting disclaimer, and it hasn't changed much since then. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 14:22, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your work.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:16, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

 Minor comments Support from Taylor Trescott
 * Per WP:INITS, you should have a space in consecutive initials
 * I understood there was some discussion on this point. Was that the conclusion?--Wehwalt (talk) 01:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I've added a space in the two instances in the article, unless I'm missing one.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * "He also had diabetes." I think you should specify that this developed near the end of his life
 * Macmillan uses the same word, developed, so I've adopted it.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Some refs have dates (Meade 1943, Davis 1994) and others don't. Unless there's a reason there should be consistency
 * There are two works by Meade and two works by Davis. The date is for disambiguation.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:34, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Same with retrieval dates
 * As I understand it, they are not required if a linked work is unlikely to change, as a book or article in its final form. I've removed one, from Ginsburg's speech.  If there's a particular one that you think should or should not have one, I'm willing to discuss.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Unless it's just my end, the fourth external link is dead
 * Deleted.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


 * There seems to be a redlinked category, and Benjamin is the only member. Did you mean to put another?
 * I'm surprised there is no such category but I've deleted it.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

 Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 00:44, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I think I've responded to all your concerns. Thank you for the review.--Wehwalt (talk) 05:27, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

I support this article's promotion to FA status.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 13:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the review and support.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:52, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Support unreservedly. A highly absorbing article on which Icommented in detail at peer revew and therefore have nothing to add here. The story would make a superb film bio – I'm surprised that no one (as far as I know) has thought of it. What are your screenwriting credntals? Brianboulton (talk) 08:51, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Sources review
 * The JSTOR sources require subscription templates
 * According to the linked source, "Catherine" MacMillan should be "Catharine"
 * Walter Stahr requires a publisher location

Otherwise, all sources are of appropriate quality and reliability and are properly formatted.
 * High praise indeed thank you very much I've dealt with the matters raised in the source review. I have no screenwriting credentials though a friend and myself have joked about a script. But I agree Benjamin lived an incredible life and the events of 1865 in particular would make quite the film.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:45, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have shifted the sub template from MacMillan (which doesn't need it) to Kahn, which does. Brianboulton (talk) 13:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that. I am working on my iPhone which gets better Internet access. The downside is with the small screen it's relatively easy to goof.--Wehwalt (talk)|
 * I'm surprised that you consider it is necessary to specify that a subscription is required for JSTOR sources. I had assumed that JSTOR was treated as ISBN and OCLC - the link doesn't allow access to the actual source. Only when the title is linked (using url=) was it necessary to warn the reader that a subscription is needed. Aa77zz (talk) 17:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * You might want to make sure sees this as he may no longer be watching this FAC.--Wehwalt (talk) 02:58, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The link provides access to subscription holders. Linking the title is another way of doing the same thing. Brianboulton (talk) 08:47, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Support. I thought I had already added my support, but it seems to have vanished into the ether. To repeat what I thought I had already said, as a peer reviewer I was thoroughly satisfied there, and remain vastly impressed by how well Wehwalt has pinned this fascinating but elusive character down. This is a seriously good article, and I don't know any online rival on the topic, free or on subscription, that comes close to it. FA all the way, and beyond.  Tim riley  talk    22:24, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you indeed I appreciate your words and your support--Wehwalt (talk) 01:52, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 05:56, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
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