Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juliette Binoche/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by SandyGeorgia 02:57, 8 April 2011.

Juliette Binoche

 * Nominator(s): Dohanlon (talk) 13:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because it is concise, clear and up-to-date. The page is factually correct, and offers very significant and interesting information beyond the basic biographical information. By using references to a very wide range of sources, the article creates an impression of the significance of the subject. Dohanlon (talk) 13:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - I appreciate the work you've put into this article, but I don't feel it yet meets the FA criteria. Here are some examples of specific concerns: Suggest withdrawal to allow you to address these concerns, consider undergoing the good article or peer review process before renominating. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Per WP:LEAD, an article of this size should have at least a 3-paragraph lead
 * Per WP:OVERLINK, don't link very common terms like "boarding school" and "Polish"
 * Article needs copyediting for grammar, clarity and flow. Examples of problematic prose: "Following this Binoche secured her first big screen appearance with a minor supporting role in Pascal Kané's Algeria-themed Liberty Belle, following this she decided to pursue a career in cinema."; "The recurring themes of these films is"; many short choppy sentences and paragraphs
 * Manual of style edits needed: italicization, hyphens/dashes, etc
 * Some material is unsourced, which is especially problematic in a biography of a living person. Examples: "After this success, Binoche decided to return to France rather than pursue an international career."; "This was Binoche's first English language role and was a worldwide success with critics and audiences alike following its 1988 premiere"; "These roles may have allowed Binoche to consolidate her international position in a way Carax's film did not"
 * Reference formatting needs serious cleanup - all web citations need retrieval dates and publishers, magazine citations need page numbers, etc
 * Some of the sources used do not meet the reliable sources requirements. Examples: this, this (which triggered my anti-virus program), this

Thanks for feedback. I'm not clear why the sources are not reliable as the information they cite is current and clearly credited to them. Thanks for feedback. Dohanlon (talk) 14:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - concur with Nikkimaria above. Too much unsourced opinion: besides the points Nikkimaria pointed out - "The recurring themes of these films is of contemporary young women exploring their sexuality, often from within an artistic milieu." or "However it is her collaboration with theatre director Scrutzler, played by Jean-Louis Trintignant, that defines Nina." Some of the sources clearly fail WP:RS - an example - this source is clearly a fan and/or self-published site. Sources need to be third-party sources that have a reputation for fact checking and trustworthiness. A self-published source needs to be by a recognized expert in the field with publications in third party sources in the field. I agree with Nikkimaria's suggestion to withdraw and suggest seeking input from both the Good Article process and from Peer Review. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


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