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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 10:03, 9 August 2017.

Kaiman-class torpedo boat

 * Nominator(s): Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:34, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

This article is about a class of dinky torpedo boats that saw service with the Austro-Hungarian Navy. It was a very successful design, and all 24 boats saw extensive active service doing a range of tasks during World War I, mainly in the Adriatic. One was torpedoed and badly damaged by a French submarine, and two sank an Italian submarine. All suggestions for improvements gratefully received. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:34, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Support Just a few comments:
 * Can anything be said about where the name Kaiman comes from?
 * The Kaiman or Caiman is a semi-aquatic lizard so I imagine that is what it came from, but none of the sources explicitly state that. Classes often take the name of the first ship.
 * That is what I was thinking, a very apt name for a small armed ship like this. I remember seeing a caiman scour the shoreline for prey ... pity there's no source. Oh well.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:17, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * "was considered to be a very successful design, and all boats saw extensive active service during World War I" You have near identical text in the body, and in so short an article the duplication stood out.
 * Good point, tweaked the wording in the body.
 * That's it. Interesting. Good luck.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:07, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:24, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Source review from Ealdgyth

 * I randomly googled three sentences and nothing showed up except mirrors. Earwig's tool shows no copyright violations.
 * Otherwise everything looks good. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:11, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ealdgyth! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Image review from Adityavagarwal

 * Two images in the article. Both are fine. Good to go! Adityavagarwal (talk) 14:09, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Adityavagarwal! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:45, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Support - I reviewed the article at A-class (and the GAN, incidentally) and my concerns have already been addressed. Parsecboy (talk) 18:04, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Comments from Dank
Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. Well done. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 23:18, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

this one looks go to go. Can I have dispensation for another nom please? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:49, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem, sorry for the delay. I should be doing a pass later today or tomorrow. Sarastro1 (talk) 12:11, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:37, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Support on prose Comments by Finetooth

 * General
 * Alt text for the infobox image would be nice.


 * Lead
 * ¶1 "The lead ship was built by Yarrow Shipbuilders, 13 boats were built by Stabilimento Tecnico Triestino, located at Trieste, and the remaining 10 boats were built by Ganz & Danubius at their shipyards at Fiume. – Many of the sentences in the lead are passive. To break this pattern, I'd suggest flipping this one to "Yarrow Shipbuilders built the lead ship; Stabilimento Tecnico Triestino of Trieste built 13 boats, and Ganz & Danubius constructed the remaining 10 at their shipyards at Fiume."


 * Service history
 * ¶1 "On 8 August 1914, the protected cruisers SMS Zenta and SMS Szigetvár and the Huszár-class destroyer SMS Uskoke were accompanied by 72 F during a shore bombardment of Antivari in Montenegro. – I'd consider flipping this one to "On 8 August 1914, 72 F accompanied the protected cruisers SMS Zenta and SMS Szigetvár and the Huszár-class destroyer SMS Uskoke during a shore bombardment of Antivari in Montenegro."
 * Flip the image caption to active voice? "The French submarine Papin torpedoed 51 T in September 1915."


 * That's all. Finetooth (talk) 00:36, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * All done, thanks for the suggestions, ! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:11, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Switching to support on prose, as noted above. Finetooth (talk) 13:46, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 10:03, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.