Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Keith Johnson (cricket administrator)/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Karanacs 18:57, 18 August 2009.

Keith Johnson (cricket administrator)

 * Nominator(s):  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Manager of the Australian Services cricket team and the Invincibles of 1948. Also involved in the Barnes libel case. Also, cricket terminology is not needed to understand most of this article.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 02:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Done; thanks. Alt text is in fairly good shape but needs a few improvements. The proper names should be removed from the lead image's alt text (and perhaps moved into the caption), as they aren't immediately obvious to a non-expert who is merely looking at the images; see WP:ALT . Similarly, the word "cream" (as a color, which cannot be verified from a black-and-white photo) should be removed, as should "who is their host", "the manager", "military cricketers", and the word "team" in "team blazer" should be changed to "uniform". The phrase "16-yeard old boy" should be rephrased to the less-specific "teenager" and the sentence punctuated with a period. A nit: use an endash (–) in "aged 20–35" . Eubulides (talk) 05:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Tweaked  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! '') paid editing=POV 07:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and it looks good. Eubulides (talk) 07:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Support: a well written, researched and illustrated article which meets the FA criteria in my opinion. I found the subject to be very interesting. I have checked it a couple of times and couldn't see much wrong with it. The alt text seems good (but I'm new to it), the external links check out (there was one that apparently had a connection issue, but when I clicked on it, it seemed to work fine). I couldn't get the disambig tool to work, as it seems like it might still be down. The only possible MOS issue I can see is in the references section, the format of the Syd Barnes book is different to all the others (i.e. the year appears after the title). Could you please check this and see if it can be tweaked? Anyway, well done. — AustralianRupert (talk) 05:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed the Barnes book  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! '') paid editing=POV 07:05, 5 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment Just wow. When I created the article I wondered if I'd ever find more than a few lines about some grey admin man. What an amazing job done by various WP:CRIC people, but especially YellowMonkey. I'm going through it, giving it a light copyedit, but it's outstanding. --Dweller (talk) 09:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Question What did he do between 1953 and his death in 1972, other than collect an MBE? --Dweller (talk) 09:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * We don't know. Per Haigh and Frith's book as noted at the bottom, the ABC records do not mention him at all after he resigned, Wisden said nothing, Haigh, Frith and Derriman had full access to the ABC and NSWCA archives because they were commissioned to write the history of the admins  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment I wonder about the photograph of Barnes aged 16 on the left side, somewhat disrupt the text I would hazard to mention. Perhaps that would make a could photo for alongside the lead? Also, is there not an infobox that is suitable? Even if its the generic "sports person" or "sports administrator" or just "person" ones. SGGH ping! 10:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah the military one  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! '') paid editing=POV 01:22, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:36, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Jack Scott is still a dab link. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments – Sources check out on reliability. Couple of formatting notes: reference 3 has half of the titled unlinked; apparently the double bracketed sics are to blame. Reference 58 gives an author's name as Philip Derriman, while ref 61 gives it as Phil. Not sure this is even worth worrying about, but I might as well mention it while I'm here. Looking forward to reading this one.  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 03:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Same Derriman but he listed his name differently on the two occasions  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! '') paid editing=POV 00:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed sic with nowiki  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! '') paid editing=POV 02:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

 Comments Support – Mostly just nit-picks, since the article is very good overall.
 * Multiple Australian Services team links in the first two paragraphs?
 * Managerial career: "the cricketers played flamboyantly with abandon in front of a packed crowds." Drop "a".
 * Little more overlinking here, with two of Keith Miller. Bradman is also linked in close proximity.
 * Barnes libel case: "Barnes was known for being somewhat eccentric self-promotor." Missing "a".
 * Space after ref 50.
 * Another missing "a" here: "Johnson was 'wide-open type of bloke'.
 * Aftermath: Comma after Neil Harvey.
 * Look for an inadvertant space after a dash.  Giants2008  ( 17–14 ) 15:34, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 01:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed that last one, how careless  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 05:00, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Support Amazing how you could find so much about an admin.  Aaroncrick  ( talk ) 08:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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