Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Landing at Nadzab/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Karanacs 16:40, 2 June 2009.

Landing at Nadzab

 * Nominator(s): Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because... One of the most imaginative operations of the Second World War in the Pacific, with parachuting and white-water rafting. Also, we have video... Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments Support
 * The geography section seems a little out of place at the beginning - I'd suggest moving it lower down and having the strategies section to start off with.
 * Done.
 * 'By agreement among the Allied nations, in March 1942 the Pacific theatre was divided into the South West Pacific Area, with General Douglas MacArthur as Supreme Commander, and the Pacific Ocean Areas, under Admiral Chester W. Nimitz.' - Does this mean MacArthus was Surpeme Commander with Nimitz under him, or did Nimitz hold equal rank? That needs to be qualified.
 * MacArthur was senior in rank, but neither was subordinate to the other. The two commands were completely separate. Attempted to explain this.
 * What was 'Task One'?
 * A moving target. Added a few words to explain this.
 * 'Blamey's operational concept was for a double envelopment of Lae, using "two of the finest divisions on the Allied side",[12] with Major General George Wootten's 9th Division landing east of Lae in a shore-to-shore operation, while Major General George Alan Vasey's 7th Division, in a reprise of the Battle of Buna-Gona in 1942 would approach from the west by an overland route' - This needs to be broken down into two sentences really, it's a tad long.
 * Done. Broken into three sentences.
 * If the 7th was to establish a blocking position, what was the 9th to do? This needs to be clarified more clearly.
 * Done. Added explanation.
 * 'The plan called for the 7th Division to move in transports to Port Moresby and in coastal shipping to the mouth of the Lakekamu River' - Written like this it would seem to connect to the previous operation, so it should be clarified this is about the landing at Nadzab itself.
 * Done.
 * Why does the article concentrate more on the 7th than the 9th? I realize the 7th utilized the paratroopers, but some more details on the 9th's role during the planning stages would be good, even if just for completeness of the picture.
 * Because the 9th Division operation has an entire article of its own (which I haven't written yet) called the Landing at Lae.
 * 'Colonel Kenneth H. Kinsler, the commander of the 503rd Parachute Infantry Regiment' - Don't think you need the 503rd's full name here, as it was given two sentences prior.
 * Okay.
 * 'Needless to say, Vasey was less than impressed' - That seems a little informal, perhaps just 'When informed of this, Vasey was less than impressed'?
 * Done.
 * How can the two weather forecasting teams know nothing about the weather (odd in the first place given their profession!) but then apparently be correct in their prediction that the weather would clear on the day of the jump?
 * A minor miracle really. Kenney wanted accurate forecasts days in advance but this was nearly impossible for the forecasters to do. Added some explanation. Of course it was much easier for Kenney, because he knew nothing about meteorology. Added explanation.
 * 'Conditions were favourable, while the 85% humidity kept the screens effective for five minutes and stoped their dispersal for ten' - Just a slight spelling mistake.
 * Well spotted.
 * 'Brigadier Eather came up in his jeep and started urging the diggers to hurry up' - By 'diggers' do you mean Australians?
 * Yes. Linked digger.
 * Did 25th Infantry Brigade receive any casualties from 9th division artillery?
 * Yes. Added text.

Otherwise, excellent work. Sort these out, and I think I'll support! Skinny87 (talk) 14:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Image Review by NuclearWarfare
 * File:Awm 128387 nadzab.jpg - I moved this to Commons and fixed it up myself. If there are only US planes involved, I assume it is OK to assume that someone from the US Army took this.
 * Done. It is a US Army photo. It appears in Miller. But the AWM copy is nicer.
 * File:Elkton Plan.jpg - Could you please add a better source? You will want the webpage the JPG is clickable to from. (It should be a html/pdf page rather than a JPG). After that, could you please ask me to move it to commons for you, if you don't know how to do that yourself?
 * Done.
 * File:Nadzab and Lae.jpg - Same as the above image.
 * Done.
 * File:Short 25pdr.jpg - Could you please put this in Information?
 * Done.
 * File:C-47 transport planes loaded for Nadzab .jpg - I'll move this to Commons; it looks good.
 * File:2-4-FA regt in C-47.jpg - Can you add the ID number and replace the link in the source with the AWM-image?
 * Done.
 * File:Markham River Crossing.jpg - Looks good; I'll move it to Commons for you.
 * File:Jacksons Strip.jpg - Looks good; I'll move it to Commons for you.
 * File:Lae AWM015783.jpg - Looks good; I'll move it to Commons for you.
 * All issues resolved with images. NW ( Talk ) ( How am I doing? ) 01:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comments -
 * The websites in the notes need publishers. (This includes the Lowe, Yoshikhara and Watson refs in the references...)
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Support This is an excellent article which meets the FA criteria. Nick-D (talk) 12:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support — AustralianRupert (talk) 10:47, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. The mark of a really good article is that it tells you all about something you never knew about, without making you feel you need to know more, and that while reading it no obvious ways to improve it spring to mind. This does that. – iride  scent  20:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. Great article.--Grahame (talk) 02:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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