Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Madlax


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 02:07, 1 June 2007.

Madlax
This one has been sitting on the FAC a while. I'd like to get some fresh eyes on it (Old nom) Raul654 17:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Support — A very good piece of writing. Excellent article. (Ibaranoff24 17:18, 26 May 2007 (UTC))
 * Comment. I've made a few minor adjustments, but notably tackled the themes section a bit.  I commented out the section on Elenore's loyalty for now; while that's certainly a plot element, I'm unsure if that's really a "theme" so to speak, and the ref'ed review also takes it pretty factually.  Also, I removed the qualifier about "Although Madlax does not depict obvious lesbian relationships;" it's possible my recollection is faulty, but since at least "relationship" as in "one night stand" is so strongly implied in at least one episode (Specifically, Vanessa/Madlax while one and/or both is insane around ep. 14 or so?) that saying "not obvious" is misleading.  It's not confirmed, yes, but it's there.  (Feel free to correct me if I'm off base?)


 * Also, question. ADV Films is sometimes italicized in this article, sometimes not.  My understanding is that companies doesn't have to be italicized as per MoS:T, but I didn't make any changes yet (maybe it means it as in "The ADV Films release" which could maybe be italicized?).  Someone else want to comment? SnowFire 06:40, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I had my doubts about the loyalty part myself but decided to let a more objective reader judge its relevance... I fixed the ref you've blanked by commenting the section out. :) And you are right about the lesbian part, though "obvious" in this context meant hardcore yuri-hentai sort of depiction. ^^ As for the ADV Films, AFAIK it shouldn't be italicized anywhere, meaning that I probably overlooked several instances of it during cleanup... --Koveras ☭ 08:50, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Mm. I think "explicit" is the word you're looking for.  Anyway, I went through and tried to phrase parts of the lead better as suggested beforehand as well as taking out the somewhat misleading statement about "factions" I complained of earlier on the talk page.  Unfortunately, the current phrasing doesn't really allow for a logical spot to mention the mystery/psychological thriller genre elements.  It is listed in the infobox on the side, but that would be nice to add back in, if someone can figure out a way that doesn't add to the current slightly longish length.


 * I'm still not a huge fan of the entire first paragraph of the themes section, though I still more blame the show more than the article (it would probably not be NPOV to say "There are none! This show is ridiculous!").  I gave it a bit of a runthrough; comments welcome.  My edit unfortunately removed the bit about "one critic who ironically defined as "pseudo-existentialistic" (Margaret yabbering about good and evil)  due to the cited reviewer talking more about the last episodes as a group, not Margaret's particular conclusion, but any chance to slip that comment back in would be good and help be a NPOV and cited phrasing of "this show, especially the last few episodes, is amazingly pretentious."  I may work up my courage and attempt to watch the final episode again to see if I can do any further tweaking.


 * Aside from that first paragraph of the themes section (which is a tricky issue), the rest of the article looks fine. SnowFire 02:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bring this up (as it doesn't concern only or primarily you), but could you please be a bit more careful with the refs? ^^ When you delete a ref in one section, it's blanked in all. %) As for your edits, I'll try to get the deleted bits you mentioned back in... --Koveras ☭ 07:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Heh, sorry about that. I really was checking after missing that one before, but apparently still missed that one. SnowFire 16:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support
 * I feel the article is well written with a lot of good information regarding the series it all it's context. Regarding theme, I can see that it's tricky could you potentially say something to the extent: The theme is fairly difficult to mark out or something like that.  Obviously Madlax isn't a very black and white Anime when it comes to theme, other than war and the concept of good and evil.   But I'm sure Human nature still could be considered a theme element. --67.177.36.225 03:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) However, statements like "the topic is quite difficult" are so not liked by the editors here unless there are three external sources that state that verbatim. ^^ I, too, think that Madlax is extremely complex and rich on themes but, alas, I'm still working on putting everything together in one big bad article somewhere out there... --Koveras ☭ 07:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Support - I did some rewording on the second and last paragraphs of "Themes". I think they read better now; comments welcome. I also removed and/or rephrased all the weasel content I found (SnowFire already did most of the work though). Other than that the article looks good to me and I believe it deserves its star.Kazu-kun 07:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.