Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mangalore


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 20:31, 31 August 2008.

Mangalore

 * Nominator(s): Kensplanet - Talk
 * previous FAC (08:03, 9 August 2008)

Well the article was not promoted last time due to some overlinking issues and due to mixing of cite xxx templates with citation templates. I have corrected it. After a thorough copyedit by User:Epbr123, I think the article is ready for a FAC. Thanks, Kensplanet (talk) 15:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Support -- Like the last time. Remove excess images from the page. Seems to be flooded with unnecessary ones. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  15:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Removed New Mangalore Port, tiled-roofed, neer dosa Images. If some more images need to be commented out, then do inform us Kensplanet (talk) 15:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments on images
 * Image concerns have been met. Awadewit (talk) 23:01, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see MOS:IMAGES and WP:PICTURE for image arrangement. Text is sandwiched by images in this article and the images could be alternated in some places. I also think there are probably too many images in the article. —This is part of a comment by  Awadewit   which was interrupted by the following:
 * Done. Each section has maximum 2 images now. I hope there are no too. many images now. Kensplanet (talk) 12:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There is still some sandwiching happening and the images need to be staggered - some need to be one right-hand side of the article and some on the left-hand side. Too many are on the right-hand side of the article. Awadewit (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I have aligned the images in different directions. Does it resolve the issue. Is sandwitching still present? Kensplanet (talk) 16:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This looks much better. Awadewit (talk) 22:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:Www.kamat.com 13034.jpg - Please strengthen the fair use rationale - why is this image necessary for the article? Why does it significantly enhance the reader's understanding of the article topic? (WP:NFCC) Is there no free image of the town hall?
 * A free image of the town hall is available. I have modified it in the article. Image:Www.kamat.com 13034.jpg can now be deleted. Kensplanet (talk) 15:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:Mangaladevi.jpg - Please add a description to this image. Also, I think "clicked by self" means the uploader and the photographer are the same, but I just wanted to make sure.
 * Well, I am not the uploader. Do Wiki policies permit me to add a description? Kensplanet (talk) 12:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes - images are still part of the wiki. Fix away! Awadewit (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Description provided and file uploaded on Commons. Kensplanet (talk) 17:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:View from our Balcony - Industrial Mangalore.jpg - This image needs a description.
 * Done. Kensplanet (talk) 12:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:Mangalore fishing.JPG - Are we sure the photographer and the uploader are the same?
 * Done. This Image has been commented out and replaced by Image:View from our Balcony - Industrial Mangalore.jpg, a free Image from Flickr. Kensplanet (talk) 16:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:Demon Yakshagana.jpg - The source link to Flickr is broken and this image was never reviewed. If we cannot find the source again, we cannot use it.
 * Done. Replaced Image:Demon Yakshagana.jpg with Image:FullPagadeYakshagana.jpg, a free image. Kensplanet (talk) 12:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The uploader and the username in the copyright release are not the same name or link to the same names. Are these the same people? How do we know that the person listed as the copyright holder has released the image? You might try leaving the uploader a message and see if s/he can clarify the issue. Awadewit (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. Image:FullPagadeYakshagana.jpg has been replace by Image:Neer Dosa.jpg, a free Image. Kensplanet (talk) 17:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:Neer dosa03.jpg - Are we sure the uploader and the photographer are the same?
 * Done. Well, this image has been commented out. Kensplanet (talk) 12:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Striking, as this image is no longer in the article. Awadewit (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:Mangalore City Corporation.jpg - This image needs a description. Also, are we sure the photographer and the uploader are the same?
 * Do Wiki policies permit me to add a description? Yes, the photographer and the uploader are the same. The uploader is User:Crazysoul. All the images have been clicked by his camera. His Image contributions can be found here: User:Crazysoul. Kensplanet (talk) 12:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can change the description. I've made the author clearer. Awadewit (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. Added a description and uploaded it in Commons. Kensplanet (talk) 17:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Image:NITK.jpg - This image needs a description. Also, who is the photographer?
 * Just this image remains. Awadewit (talk) 22:23, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Uploaded on Commaons and provided a description. The photographer is Electronixid. Kensplanet (talk) 15:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

All free images should be copied to Commons so that other Wikiprojects can use them. See this dispatch for advice about how to describe and tag self-made images. I'm sure resolving these issues will be easy. Awadewit (talk) 18:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Again do Wiki policies permit me to do those things. 13:45, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes - images are part of the encyclopedia - you are encouraged to improve them. :) Awadewit (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * A few basic points: I'd prefer that the first (Sura books) source in the etymology section be replaced, if possible, as I am unable to verify its reliability. In the history section, I'd prefer if the "legend" sentences were compressed a bit. Other than that, it needs someone to run through it a couple of times and tighten the prose. -- Relata refero (disp.) 21:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The sura book thing is done. Can you specify which all sections need to be condensed. Kensplanet (talk) 14:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Current 'footnote 8' says "Mangalore City Corporation, p. 5" - but in the reference section there are 2 Mangalore City Corporation articles listed ("Description of Environment" and "Integrated Solid Waste Management Operation & Maintenance report"). Which is footnote 8 referring to? maclean 03:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, nevermind. When I did an edit I saw there was a wikilink to the specific article in the code. Sneaky template, that one is. -maclean 03:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, as you have checked it's properly linked. Here, we don't have any other option. There are many cases in which the Author and the Publisher both are the same. Mangalore City Corporation is the author for the 2 Refs. Kensplanet (talk) 14:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment, ref #109 (http://www.mangaloreuniversity.ac.in/accredition.html), takes me to a dead link. D.M.N. (talk) 08:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. The Page was just moved from http://www.mangaloreuniversity.ac.in/accredition.html to http://www.mangaloreuniversity.ac.in/xampp/accredition.html. Kensplanet (talk) 13:37, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Support and one comment the sister links may not be necessary as it does nt have any real links currently Taprobanus (talk) 20:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for your comments. Sisterlinks has been removed. Kensplanet (talk) 04:35, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. I first read this article during its first peer review. I can see that Kensplanet has taken great care in putting this together, especially with respect to comprehensiveness. I have been slowly going this over the past few days and I can say it definitely is one of the better Indian city articles. The one thing that kind of bugged me was the reliance on the word "popular" (used 19 times in the article). Otherwise, a very well-constructed article. I look forward to seeing further articles at FAC from Kensplanet. --maclean 04:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
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