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The article was promoted by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 15:11, 18 July 2016.

Margaret Lea Houston

 * Nominator(s): — Maile (talk) 21:06, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

This article is about Sam Houston's third (and final) wife, who became the First Lady of the Republic of Texas, and the First Lady of Texas when it became a state. I have been working on this article on and off since 2011.

An explanation about the names. Houston and Lea are the predominant surnames in this article. To avoid confusion, only Sam Houston is referred to solely by his last name. The others are referred to by their first names. Because the children were often given the exact name as the adults, I have included their nicknames to distinguish who they are. Houston City is how many authors mention the city of Houston when they are writing about Sam Houston. It could be confusing to say "Houston went to Houston." or "The Houstons moved to Houston." "The city of Houston" could have double meaning, because he also maintained a residence there. — Maile (talk) 21:06, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Image permission check:
 * File:Margaret Lea Houston.jpg is tagged fair use, but is almost certainly PD due to age.
 * Replaced with File:Margaret Lea Houston 1839.jpg PD image, a little less grainy


 * File:Sam3.jpg same, plus would benefit from moving to a better name
 * Renamed File:Sam Houston 1848.jpg — Maile (talk) 16:39, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Others seem fine. Oppose pending resolution of the above. Stifle (talk) 13:10, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I have taken care of the above two issues. — Maile (talk) 18:35, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, support. Stifle (talk) 09:52, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Comments. - Dank (push to talk)
 * I'm sorry that I probably won't have time to finish this one, but I'll do as much as I can.
 * "They met in between his two non-consecutive terms as President of the Republic of Texas": AHD and M-W say that "in between" (with or without a hyphen) can't be a preposition. You might change this to: just before his second term, or: just after his first.
 * ✔️Changed to "They met following his first of two non-consecutive terms"


 * "during his service as a representative": Politicians are really the only ones who think they're providing a service. "when he was".
 * ✔️ Changed


 * "a strong, close-knit family": What's a strong family?
 * ✔️ removed "strong"


 * "the man who was arguably the most famous and accomplished individual of his place and time.": I don't know what that means. What would a list of people who were the most famous of their place and time look like? Who would be on such a list?
 * ✔️ Changed to "the man who was an accomplished politician in both Tennessee and Texas, and who had won the Battle of San Jacinto during the Texas Revolution"
 * I like it. - Dank (push to talk) 20:36, 31 May 2016 (UTC)


 * "8 children": eight children
 * ✔️ Done


 * "to the majority of them": feels a little clinical to me. "most of them"
 * ✔️ Done


 * "helping with the children, alternately providing the family with financial assistance and temporary housing, as well as managing the household help": I'd go with: helping with the children, managing the household help, and always providing either financial assistance or temporary housing
 * ✔️ Done


 * "The Lea family presence in Texas formed a spiritual bond that helped Margaret convince her husband to": I personally don't object, but the tone isn't standard for Wikipedia. I'd go with: "With the help of her extended family in Texas, Lea convinced her husband to"
 * ✔️ Done


 * "Nacogdoches": link it ... and it's an odd-looking name for a town, so I'd put "Texas" after it.
 * ✔️ Done


 * I didn't get far, but I hope that helps. - Dank (push to talk) 19:55, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've taken care of these. — Maile  (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks good. - Dank (push to talk) 20:43, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Comments –
 * The last two sentences of the first paragraph of the Marriage section are currently unsourced.
 * ✔️ I put a citation at the end of the paragraph that applies to both sentences.


 * First Lady of the Republic: "She renamed it Ben Lomond as a tip of the hat to the romantic Walter Scott works she'd read". Contractions like "she'd" should be avoided if possible. I could understand leaving it if it was part of a quote, but since that is not the case I'd suggest going with "she had" here.
 * ✔️ done


 * The last sentence of the section's second paragraph could also use a cite.
 * ✔️ done


 * Raven Hill and Woodland: "and his concern that he'd had no letters from her in weeks." This has another contraction that should be removed; since you may not want "had had" in there, consider "that he had received no letters from her in weeks" or similar.
 * ✔️ done


 * Another in "she'd had with a breast lump", and one more immediately afterward. Try sweeping the rest of the article for any more.
 * ✔️ and I checked the rest of the article for possible contractions of 'd, 'nt or 't


 * "while Congress was in session and Houston in Washington, D.C.." Double period here, and the spacing of the abbreviation seems different than what you're using in the rest of the article. Also, if you think a Washington, D.C. link is helpful, it could be placed earlier in the section.
 * ✔️ done


 * ✔️ Houston's profession of faith: The Independence link could be moved up to the first sentence here. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:47, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I've taken care of all issues. That was a really good catch on the double period and varied spacing on Washington, D.C. — Maile  (talk) 22:47, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Support – A nice read overall, and I think it meets the criteria. Giants2008  ( Talk ) 21:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Comments from Mike Christie
Support. I can only find one small quibble, which doesn't affect my support. -- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * "His will named her as his executrix, and named his cousin Thomas Caruthers, as well as with family friends Thomas Gibbs, J. Carroll Smith and Anthony Martin Branch as executors": I don't think you need "with".
 * ✔️ Thank you for your support. "with" was actually a typo, and I've removed it.  Good catch. — Maile  (talk) 19:16, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Comments from West Virginian
Support, I apologize for taking so long to complete my review of this article for Margaret Lea Houston. As always, you have done an exceptional job. This article is indeed well-written, comprehensive, well-researched, neutral, and stable; it follows the style guidelines; it has images with succinct captions, and acceptable copyright statuses; and it is an appropriate length. All my spot-checks of sourcing had satisfactory results. I find that this article easily meets Featured Article criteria, and all of the aforementioned issues and quibbles have been resolved. Thank you for your continued exceptional contributions to Wikipedia, including this one. -- West Virginian   (talk)  01:20, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Coord note

 * Source review? Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:31, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Coming now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:57, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Formatting looks consistent.
 * Earwig's copyvio tool is negative/clear.

Using this version as a reference,
 * FN 56 is used once, material is faithful to source.
 * FN 68 is used once, material is faithful to source.
 * FN 102 is used once, material is faithful to source.
 * FN 105 is used twice, material is faithful to source.

i.e. looks all in order....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:37, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

-- Laser brain  (talk)  15:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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