Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mario Party DS/archive1

Mario Party DS

 * Nominator(s): ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 00:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Mario Party DS is the second handheld game in the Mario Party series and the only installment in the series originally released for the Nintendo DS. I've already successfully nominated the article for good article status, and I feel that subsequent revisions/additions I've made to the page have only enhanced its clarity; for instance, the caption in the article's infobox has been changed from  to  for more consistency with the use of the serial comma within the article, as well as better indication that "Toadette's Music Room" is in fact the name of a board in the game. Naturally, I look forward to feedback for this FA nomination, and I would be willing to make any necessary changes to the article. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 00:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Review by Hurricanehink
Big fan of this series! I figured I’d review since I have an ongoing FAC and needed something light and game like to read this morning. I haven’t played the DS version, so I’m curious how this stacks up.


 * ”It is the second handheld game in the Mario Party series” - worth linking Handheld game console?
 * ”The game has sold over nine million units, making it the 11th best-selling game for the Nintendo DS.” - the source doesn’t say the 11th best selling for DS, so could find a source for that?
 * ”Much like other games in the series, Mario Party DS allows up to four players to compete in an interactive board game.” - small nitpick, but can you play with only two or three players? I thought every MP game was four players.
 * ”rolling dice to move between one and 10 spaces at a time” - another small nitpick, but when two numbers are used in the same sentence, I prefer they’re written in the same style, so “ten” not “10”
 * I see that other MP games’ articles capitalize “Star”, but is there a reason why? Especially sentences that mention coin and Stars, it’s just odd with that capitalization.
 * ”Once there are five turns remaining, an event known as the "Final 5 Frenzy" occurs in which Bowser aids the player in last place by giving them coins or a Star, depending on the outcome of a roulette.“ - ref 11 doesn’t mention the Final 5 Frenzy (but rather Bowser helping halfway through?), and I don’t recognize that from other games by that name. Also, is it really Bowser? Other games have Koopa Troopa (and not King Koopa) giving that.
 * I love that there are five bosses, I didn’t know MP had that! Aside from Bowsers, who are the others? Idk if worth mentioning, but I’m curious. (Petey Piranha, Big Boo, Dry Bones, and Kamek I’m guessing…. And it appears I’m right!)
 * I see ref 18 citing part of the plot section. What about refs for the rest of the section?
 * I take it the game isn’t available on the Switch?
 * I appreciated the Japan sales figures, but anything for any other areas?

All in all, a good read! The game sounds interesting how it’s a bit different on the DS. The microphone aspect was unexpected, I can’t imagine how that was used (not that you need to go into detail on that). Let me know if you have any questions, but I hope none of these comments are too difficult. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 17:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your feedback! Here's a few notes in return:
 * I have linked two known instances of "handheld game" in the article.
 * To my knowledge, it is possible to play with only two or three players, except in Story Mode and certain modes that require all four players.
 * Every instance of "Star" is actually capitalized in-game, while most if not all instances of "coin" are not. I'm not sure why, but that's just the way it is with most titles in the series.
 * The recurring event is in fact known as "Final 5 Frenzy" in this game, and although it is hosted by Koopa Troopa in several other games in the series, it is hosted by Bowser here.
 * You're mostly correct with the bosses in the game—Piranha Plant, Hammer Bro, Dry Bones, Kamek, and Bowser, in that order.
 * The game is currently not available on the Nintendo Switch, though the first few games in the series are available via the Nintendo Switch Online service.

I'll be sure to keep all of your feedback in mind, particuarly that regarding references, as well as suggestions from other editors! ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 01:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply! Were you able to find a source for the plot section by chance? That’s my only outstanding comment. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 18:08, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The reference that's currently used in that section actually appears to summarize the game's entire story mode (it even includes dialogue from some of the cutscenes), so if anything, it could probably just be moved to the end of the section. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 19:22, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yea if the reference covers that all, I’d love if the whole plot section could be sourced. I don’t like supporting articles for FAC if there’s any section without a reference. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 21:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Support thanks! ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk ) 17:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Source review (LunaEclipse)
First heard about this game when the fake anti-piracy screen for it went viral. Honestly can't believe this article is up for FAC. Will start reviewing in a few days. lunaeclipse (talk)  20:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Support on source review. Found no issues with sourcing or ref formatting. The Nintendo sources should be fine per WP:ABOUTSELF, as the claims are not that big of a deal (i.e. they are not contentious). lunaeclipse  (talk)  00:46, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Image review by CosXZ
First FA review that I have done. Support on images alone. Cos (X + Z) 17:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * File:Mario Party DS US cover.jpg: looks good.
 * File:MarioPArtyDS.jpg: source link is dead.

Comments by Vacant0
Will leave comments here. -- Vacant 0 (talk &bull; contribs) 22:33, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * References mostly seem to look okay. I do have a couple of recommendations, though. I initially got confused about the "Nintendo of Europe, 2007" refs until I noticed that this is meant to be Ref 9 re-used a couple of times. Instead of adding them as a ref, I recommend re-using Ref 9 with the sfn template. If you don't know how, move the Ref 9 to a new subsection in the References section and use the sfn template at places where it is used in the text (e.g. ).
 * Is it possible to expand Refs 24 and 27?
 * The director, producers, designers, programmer, artist, and composers (present in the infobox) are unsourced.
 * "Much like other games in the series" → specify, "Much like other games in the Mario Party series" then unlink Mario Party in the fifth paragraph.
 * The rest of the text appears to be in a good shape.
 * Unsure whether it is relevant enough to be included in the article, but you can add the fact that it costed $34.99 (ref: )

Thanks for your feedback! I've done my best to take all of it into consideration: ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 14:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Used the sfn template where I felt it was appropriate
 * I looked into both the Nintendo Power and Famitsu references, but was unable to find either of them online.
 * The director, producers, designers, programmer, artist, and composers in the infobox are now sourced (and a couple of previously unnoticed typos were corrected).
 * The phrase has been altered and Mario Party unlinked later in the section.
 * I'm not sure if there would be a good place to insert the price information, unless it could be worked somewhere into the "Sales" subsection.


 * I'll fix the sfn templates for you, if that's not a problem? There are harv errors now, that's why. Vacant 0  (talk &bull; contribs) 15:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you maybe have offline access to Famitsu? The page is missing, that is why. Vacant 0  (talk &bull; contribs) 15:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I unfortunately do not. I've noticed the same citation is used on Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box, albeit also without a page number. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 16:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay. You can remove the reference considering that the reference next to it (Ref 30 also) cites Famitsu as a source with 1,730,191 copies sold as of 30 July 2008. Vacant 0  (talk &bull; contribs) 22:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The reference has been removed. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 00:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, I do not see any other issues. Support then! -- Vacant 0 (talk &bull; contribs) 10:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Random comment by Cukie Gherkin

I won't actually have time to review it at the moment, but I just wanted to ask, is such a long caption normal for infobox images? I feel like the identify of the characters featured on the box art would be better served as alt text. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 10:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The caption for the infobox image could be condensed to "North American packaging artwork", while the current caption becomes the alt text. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 03:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I would recommend doing that - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 06:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 14:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)