Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mells War Memorial/archive1


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The article was promoted by Sarastro1 via FACBot (talk) 11:17, 28 October 2017.

Mells War Memorial

 * Nominator(s): HJ Mitchell  &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  02:52, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Another war memorial. Another Lutyens. But this one's a little different. Lutyens did not just design memorials for major towns and cities like my previous few nominations but also for lots of tiny little places in the middle of nowhere, usually in connection with his pre-war work on country houses. Such was the case with Mells (population ~600 in 2011), where Lutyens' friendship with the owners of the manor resulted in multiple commissions. The story of this tiny village's war memorial is a microcosm of a nation's pain and grief following the slaughter of the First World War. The article has had an A-class review at Milhist and I feel it's up to scratch but I'd appreciate any and all comments. Thanks, HJ Mitchell  &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  02:52, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Support I supported this article at its A class review, and also carried out an image review. I believe it meets Featured Article standards. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  06:27, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Support similarly, I supported this article at its A class review, and any concerns I had were dealt with there. Nice work. Harrias talk 09:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:18, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Comments from Dank

 * Avoid "multiple ... multiple".
 * "In November 2015, as part of commemorations for the centenary of the First World War, Lutyens' war memorials were recognised as a "national collection".": By? After you add this, I'd suggest using the same language in the lead, in place of the unattributed quoted text.
 * Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. Well done. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 17:39, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Who doesn't like multiple multiples? ;) I've made the addition to that sentence, and I get what you're saying about the lead but the feedback in previous FACs has been to cut that down in the lead and keep it about the individual memorial rather than the group. One day I'll get round to writing an overview, but I've got another half a dozen individual memorials to cover yet. Very much obliged, as ever, Dan! HJ Mitchell  &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  09:18, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion, all I was looking for was the removal of the quote marks, or attribution. They're gone now, so I'm happy. You're welcome, as always. - Dank (push to talk) 18:36, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Support from Moisejp
Minor suggestion for your consideration:
 * "By 1916, 74 men": Possibly a bit awkward to have two numbers in a row separated by a comma. Consider spelling out "seventy-four" or adding "a total of" to act as a buffer? Moisejp (talk) 05:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed, and that's probably the easiest way to address it, so done. Thanks very much for the review. HJ Mitchell  &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  07:44, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Sources review
Sources are all of appropriate quality and reliability, and are consistently formatted. Brianboulton (talk) 15:39, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Image review
All images are licensed properly and have correct rationales, no so issues there. A couple of (minor) things I did notice was that they are missing alt text, and the infobox image caption says it was taken in June 2014, however was photographed in September 2007. Other than that, no worthwhile problems so I'll be happy to lend my support on the images as a whole. Nice work with this article by the way! JAG UAR   09:45, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . I'm guessing the date confusion comes from the images being switched around. As for alt text, I'm never sure what to put in there that would actually be helpful to someone using a screen reader and in this case there's an entire section dedicated to discussing what it looks like; with a different sort of article, it's definitely something I'd consider. HJ Mitchell  &#124; Penny for your thoughts?  09:45, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Support from Jackyd101
A very nice, simple and well-constructed article, quite moving. I only had one comment, not serious enough to hold up support, which was to ask whether there is anything on contemporary use of the memorial. I would presume there are ceremonies on remembrance day etc. Can anything be said about its role within the village community? Maybe not, but just a thought which occurred. Great work--Jackyd101 (talk) 17:27, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

Sarastro1 (talk) 11:17, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
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