Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Minnie Pwerle/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 16:12, 31 July 2010.

Minnie Pwerle

 * Nominator(s): hamiltonstone (talk) 03:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Imagine living in the remote Australian outback your whole life, taking up an artist's paint brush for the first time at the age of 80, becoming an almost instant celebrity and painting thousands of paintings before your death at 86. Imagine your art being so popular people would try to kidnap you to force you to paint for them. Meet Minnie Pwerle, symbol of the greatness - and the controversy - of contemporary Indigenous Australian art. Thanks to Belovedfreak for the GA review and Malleus for the copyedit. As of this morning dabs and external links were good. Anyone concerned about the nonfree image use rationale etc might like to take a look at the discussion about a similar image I used at Makinti Napanangka - though the source for the Minnie article image is different. Thank you for your consideration. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:24, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment—no dab links, no dead external links (as you said; two external links were timing out a moment ago but are fine now). Ucucha 06:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The map of NT is hardly legible: is it possible to get a clearer version, or perhaps to enlarge the map? Ucucha 20:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The map wasn't my own creation, so instead I enlarged both it and the painting image on the page. See what you think. hamiltonstone (talk) 00:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:FA Criteria 3 Australia had quite liberal copyright laws, what efforts were made to find free images by this artist? Fasach Nua (talk) 19:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * None on Flickr, none on Google images with tag for reuse; artist is deceased so cannot give permission; no work known to be on permanent public display and therefore no work attracting freedom of panorama. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment: “even in her eighties she could outrun younger women” Doesn't sound plausible to me. P. S. Burton  (talk)  09:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's what the sources say. She was very fit and energetic by all accounts - which I guess she would have to be, to paint several thousand pictures in six years - which, alleged fakes notwithstanding, she certainly did. hamiltonstone (talk) 09:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Sources comment: All sources look OK, no problems identified. Brianboulton (talk) 17:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Support  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  06:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Note from nominator - I will have only intermittent internet access for next seven days, but then be back to normal. hamiltonstone (talk) 11:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Support. Good work; just a few minor quibbles (some of which may be personal preference rather than genuine problems): Ucucha 13:00, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If there are so many estimates of her date of birth, why do you only put the c. 1915 one in the lead and the persondata?
 * I would have put in the lead that Utopia is in the Northern Territory.
 * An actual normal map would be better than a handwritten one.

Support. I have a few niggling c/e issues I can look after myself, and its a fine article that drew me in from the start and engaged me till the end. As an aside, I'm dissapointed but understand why I do not to see a photograph of the artist or more than one example of her work. FU people might disagree, but articles on mid 20th C to present visual art are very much at a loss. A FA standard article on a painter with just 1 example? Ach. Ceoil (talk) 14:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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