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Mukilteo, Washington

 * Nominator(s):  Sounder Bruce  03:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Mukilteo (pronounced Muck-uhl-tee-OH) was once a little town on the shore of Puget Sound, but has since grown into one of the more affluent suburbs of the Seattle region, thanks to its proximity to the Boeing airplane factory. I believe this article to be as good as my previous city FA, Arlington, and improved on the formula I've been using in my pursuit of a good topic for the cities of Snohomish County, Washington. I hope to be back soon with another city FAC.  Sounder Bruce  03:04, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Image review


 * Your city hall image has two captions, which results in only one being displayed
 * The second one was supposed to be an alt.
 * File:Snohomish_County_Washington_Incorporated_and_Unincorporated_areas_Mukilteo_Highlighted.svg: is a more specific data source available? Nikkimaria (talk) 03:28, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain that the map uses TIGER files from the U.S. Census Bureau, but the creator hasn't edited regularly in almost four years.  Sounder Bruce  03:47, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
 * In that case if those files support the data presented suggest adding them to the image description page as sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 12:08, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Comment - I'm not sure of the purpose of the 2000 census section when you already have the exact same wording and more recent data for the 2010 census. Why not just keep the most recent census data? Also there is a paragraph about a 10th place ranking from a money themed magazine, but I checked the recent list and the city is not mentioned. I think this paragraph should be removed as the measures for "quality of life" were not clearly determined in a scientific way, and magazine promotions are not exactly reliable sources of unbiased opinions on demographic matters. Mattximus (talk) 19:46, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late reply! The 2000 census data has traditionally been kept on city articles as a point of comparison; I expect it to be removed after the 2020 census facts are published, at which point 2010 will be retained for that comparison. The "Best Places" ranking from Money Magazine (a subsidiary of Time Magazine) are fairly reputable nationally and change annually based on their criteria, which is a mix of opinion and data like housing prices/financing, school test results, and commute times. I believe it warrants inclusion, as these rankings are related to the city's perception as an affluent suburb.  Sounder Bruce  05:51, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Oppose


 * The lead should be a summation of the entire article, but at the moment seems unbalanced - it is heavily focused on the location's history


 * The infobox and categories give an establishment date of 1858; however, this is not clearly supported by the article text, which states that a settlement was established two years after an 1855 treaty, which would be 1857. Conversely the HistoryLink source seems to suggest 1860. Also the name of the settlement's cofounder is misspelled - most sources seem to support "Fowler"


 * Looking elsewhere in the infobox: I see the 6.26 in the given source, but not either of the two other area numbers; these numbers also contradict what's in the article text. I also don't see a source for that elevation anywhere


 * The infobox gives a population density of 3,431.20/sq mi. How is that number being calculated?
 * "causing $500,000 in damage" - need to specify that this is 1930 dollars


 * "including passenger service provided by Alaska Airlines" - source supports an "overhaul and repairing service" here at this time, but doesn't explicitly mention passenger service until much later


 * What is a fourth-class city?


 * The narrative around annexations seems somewhat confused. In one paragraph it is claimed that the annexation of Harbor Pointe "doubled the city's size to 6.25 square miles". However, the following paragraph states that the size grew to 6.6 square miles. In addition to resolving the overlap, this paragraph sorely needs copyediting for clarity and flow. Also a map of the various annexations/neighborhoods would be quite helpful.


 * "which is planned to cost $167 million and open in 2020" - the second source provided for this claim seems to indicate that this date will be pushed back, and the cost is at this point unclear (unless there is a subsequent source?)


 * Given variance in definitions for the term "mass shooting", I'd suggest not using it here - most definitions would exclude a case of 3 deaths


 * Don't think the 2017 airplane crash is significant enough to warrant a paragraph


 * Lots of repeated links throughout


 * The article text gives a 2017 population estimate of 21,240; the adjacent table and the infobox both give 21,469


 * "Hispanic or Latino of any race were 4.4% of the population" - as a non-American I was somewhat confused by this; probably worth adding a footnote explaining its significance


 * "8.9% had a female householder with no husband present" - I'm assuming this means single women? Probably worth clarifying. Also, did the 2000 census really show no single men, or was that stat omitted for some reason?


 * What is "post-census redistricting"? In general I'm finding that the article assumes a lot of local or territorial knowledge on the part of the reader. Nikkimaria (talk) 15:33, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

I will withdraw this nomination, since it seems to be getting little traction, and I have received useful feedback on what I would need to improve in the meantime. I have other projects that need to use up this FAC slot, so I'll return with this one at another time.  Sounder Bruce  19:29, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, just to be clear (and apologies if you're well aware), according to FAC instructions if this nom is archived then there is a two-week waiting period before you can nominate any other article. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I am aware, and will be taking the proposed FAC (1999 FIFA Women's World Cup) to Peer review in the meantime. Really hoping that it can be promoted in time for its 20th anniversary this July.  Sounder Bruce  02:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 13:19, 18 May 2019 (UTC)