Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mythology of Carnivàle/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 21:43, 27 December 2007.

Mythology of Carnivàle


Self-nom Having learned a couple of things from previous FACs and GACs, I think I've made sure that most imaginable issues have been addressed before they come up here. This article is GA, has gone through a slight Peer Review (for the still ongoing Featured Topic candidacy of Carnivàle), and has received extensive copyedit passes (by me and User:Opark 77). The article has received so many encouraging compliments since that I'll just try for FAC now instead of later or never. I am reluctant to state the following, but too many bad experiences make it necessary: Please read the article instead of just skimming it and then opposing for "it doesn't look like the other FA character articles". Carnivàle is a very atypical TV show in several way, and this subarticle, as FAC-unusual as it is, strays from the norm accordingly. "These unreliable forum posts" are either directly by the creator of the show (I can easily dig up proof for this) or are chatlogs with him, and if he isn't considered reliable, I don't know who is. I vouch for the used sources being among the best that are available, as you'll probably see if you try looking for sources yourself. If this isn't enough for FA, then I give up, as losing these sources would raise major comprehensiveness issues. If you have any other concerns or suggestions, I'll try to address them as fast as possible. Thank you. (Unwikilike spoiler warning: It might be a good advice to not review this article if you ever plan on watching the show.) – sgeureka t•c 01:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment For a featured article that relies strongly on internet postings by the show's creator, see Spoo, which recently survived a Featured Article Review. In my view internet posts by a show's creator are on a par with interviews with the creator in magazines (and DVD commentaries etc).  They are perfectly acceptable sources for facts directly related to the show.  (The essay Reliable source examples takes the opposing view, with misgivings relating to the authenticity of the postings.  However, if there is evidence that the postings are genuine, then it concludes that the sources are reliable) Bluap (talk) 05:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I am very aware of the controversy surrounding Spoo, and I admit that the section Mythology of Carnivàle would have the same problems if it would stand as its own article. But in combination with Mythology of Carnivàle and especially Mythology of Carnivàle (where reviewers try to describe the phenomenon that was unexplainable during Carnivàle ' s run; see Mythology of Lost for a similar yet better known phenomenon), I believe I've done the best that I could with the topic, and hope that FAC reviewers agree. I realize that reviewers cannot access the show creator's forum posts because of required registration, so I picked a random forum post by him and provide it below to give an idea what I used as sources. – sgeureka t•c 09:41, 18 December 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.