Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nashville Sounds


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 16:01, 29 August 2008.

Nashville Sounds

 * Nominator(s): NatureBoyMD (talk)

I'm nominating this article for featured article status because I beleive it meets all the featured article criteria. It is well written, sourced, un-biased, meets style guidelines, etc. The article is currently listed as a good article and was the selected article for the Baseball Portal from May 6 to May 31, 2008. NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Restart, old nom.  Sources checked. Sandy Georgia  (Talk)

Image comment - This article has come a long way since the original nomination, I am still unhappy uneasy with the WP:NFCC issues relating to Image:OriginalNashvilleSoundsLogo.png, but I will not oppose on that basis. Fasach Nua (talk) 10:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments on images
 * Image:NashvilleSounds.png - This fair use rationale gives "illustration" as the purpose, but we need a stronger reason. How does this image "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic" (WP:NFCC #8)? Also, the copyright holder needs to be explicitly listed.
 * Image:NashvilleSoundsCap.png - This fair use rationale gives "illustration" as the purpose, but we need a stronger reason. How does this image "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic" (WP:NFCC #8)? Also, the copyright holder needs to be explicitly listed. However, I am not convinced we need two fair use images in the infobox. I think this one should be deleted.
 * I'm hoping that since the WikiProject has arranged to have two logos in the infobox, they have determined that this meets fair use standards. Awadewit (talk) 17:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:OriginalNashvilleSoundsLogo.png - This fair use rationale gives "illustration" as the purpose, but we need a stronger reason. How does this image "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic" (WP:NFCC #8)? Also, the copyright holder needs to be explicitly listed.
 * This cannot be "Used as a primary means of visual identification for the baseball team", since the current two logos are. Awadewit (talk) 17:59, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK. I redefined its purpose again. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow! So much better! Awadewit (talk) 21:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I hope these suggestions help! Awadewit (talk) 20:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:GreerStadium1stBaseLine.jpg - This image has a tag on it that is specifically deprecated. Could we contact the author and fix that?
 * Image:Nashville Sounds Mascot Ozzie.jpg - This image does not have a source link nor has it undergone Flickr review, so its license cannot be verified. Can we get a source link? Also, could we list the Flickr photographer as the author of the image?
 * Image:NashvilleSoundsFaithNight.jpg - This image does not have a source link nor has it undergone Flickr review, so its license cannot be verified. Can we get a source link? Also, could we list the Flickr photographer as the author of the image?


 * Image:NashvilleSounds.png - Done -NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:NashvilleSoundsCap.png - Done. Baseball team infoboxes are set up to display two logos: the team logo and cap logo. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:OriginalNashvilleSoundsLogo.png - Done -NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:GreerStadium1stBaseLine.jpg - I contacted the author (User:Kinu). -NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:Nashville Sounds Mascot Ozzie.jpg - Source link & Flickr author added. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Image:NashvilleSoundsFaithNight.jpg - Source link & Flickr author added. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments - Looking much better than when it originally came here. I'll give you some more to work on.
 * Reds era, part II: "The Sounds advanced to their first American Association championship series, in which they lost to the Omaha Royals three games to two." I'd change "in which" to "where".
 * Pirates era: "Pitcher Jimmy Anderson also led the PCL in winning percentage." This use of also implies that someone else led the league in that category.
 * "to serve as its twenty-fifth manager.." Number issue again.
 * "Outfielder Tike Redman tied another player with a league leading 10 triples." Which player? Also, league leading could use a hyphen.
 * "They also clinched the Eastern Division title, giving them their first post-birth as a member of the Pacific Coast League." Post-birth? Also can be taken out as well.
 * Brewers era: "On May 5 - May 6" Is this correct? Because I have no clue. Paging Sandy...
 * I'm pretty sure this should be an unspaced en dash. Still not sure, but that's my hunch
 * I changed it to "May 5–6". See the second bullet under heading 2.3 at MOS:DATE. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 20:12, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Speaking of a certain FAC delegate, she complained about the Roster and Retired numbers section in the first version of this FAC. I would like to see these, along with the yearly results table, moved to the bottom, below all the prose sections. They would not stick out as much there. What are your thoughts on this proposal?
 * Where would you specifically place the roster/retired numbers? "The bottom" is a little vague. What section would they come after? -NatureBoyMD (talk) 22:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC) I dropped it in before the see also section. How's that? -NatureBoyMD (talk) 22:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Herschel Greer Stadium: Why is guitar linked? I'm pretty sure we all know what a guitar is.
 * First Tennessee Field: "just 2 miles (3.2 km) north of the current stadium." Two is another number issue.
 * Template:convert is being used here. I think it is correct as is per MOS. (WP:UNITS) -NatureBoyMD (talk) 22:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, is set up the way it is because comparative figures should not mix numerals and words. See the second bullet point here. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 22:51, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "whichever occurs first." I understand this in legal terms, but is the tense a problem? After all, the bill never passed.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 21:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All DONE, except two where I have commented. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 22:23, 23 August 2008 (UTC) I beleive the remaining two have been addressed now. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Please let me bug you with a few more things so I can throw my full support behind this. Don't worry that I haven't struck anything above; it hasn't been checked by me yet. By the way, that is exactly where I wanted the two sections moved.
 * Uniforms: "This jersey made of red mesh with a single line of black piping going down the sleeves and across the shoulders to the neck." Should be "This jersey is made of".
 * Radio and television: "former Huntsville Stars and Iowa Cubs broadcaster Steve Carroll. Carroll left..." Don't like two Carrolls in a row. Maybe "After 1995, Carroll left"?
 * Mike Capps' last name is misspelled when he gets replaced.
 * Mascots: I'm confident that cougar and dinosaur don't need links.

That's all from my vantage point.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 23:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ALL DONE. - NatureBoyMD (talk) 03:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Support - This has come a long way in just a few weeks. I did leave you a note above, but that's not enough for me to withhold support.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 18:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Support I supported it last time and I am supporting it again. Dincher (talk) 01:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Support - Even better than last time. Kaldari (talk) 16:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Support; much improved over the course of this FAC, well done. —Giggy 07:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Note, see WP:ITALICS, the periodicals, newspapers, magazines are italicized; websites and organizations are not.  The citations should be cleaned up; several websites and orgs are in italics when they should not be.  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 15:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * DONE - NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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