Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/New York State Route 311/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 02:29, 2 October 2008.

New York State Route 311

 * Nominator(s): –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 

I'm nominating this article for featured article because I need a break from the usual hurricanes. :) Seriously, though, I helped promote the article to GA a few months back, and after a recent massive expansion, this is clearly the most comprehensive account of this small road in the Hudson Valley of New York. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  03:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Roads are as bad as hurricanes (I'm still trying to decide if one is actually worse :P) Images check out, all free with author/source/licenses. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk  ) 03:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Seriously. Roads are fun to work on, though, and more importantly, they're easy. Note, though, that I'm someday going to find a way to combine the two! Hurricane Lane (2006) qualifies as half-road/half-hurricane, right? ;) –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  03:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments
 * Note that http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyputnam/history/index.htm is the actual information on http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyputnam/history/chapXXVII/681-690.htm this source, and that the work is NOT by Cathy Horn or published in 2004, but actually is from 1886 and by Goist and Gilbert.
 * Fixed. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  13:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I would be happier with sources from http://www.historicpatterson.org/index.php here if they listed their sources. Only reason it's even borderline reliable is it's a local historical society, but it's definitely on the fence.
 * I tried looking for the same information elsewhere, and I don't believe it exists other than that site. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  13:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll leave this one out for other reviewers to note for themselves. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:18, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Tell me, why is "winter" linked? Tony   (talk)  02:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It's not anymore. :) –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  02:22, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There is one dead link right now, and no matches from the internet archive. LegoKontribsTalkM 07:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Good catch. I removed the URL and converted it to cite news. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  12:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments from Giggy Giggy (talk) 04:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "historical sites, each with their own distinct histories." -, the repetition of "history" isn't pretty
 * "crossing over the northernmost portion of the lake" - WP:EGG
 * "and soon intersects with NY 164" - the "soon" sounds a bit travel guide-ish IMO.
 * "where it continued east on an overlap with U.S. Route 6 at the time" - is the "at the time" necessary?
 * Done with everything. Thanks for the review, –Juliancolton Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  11:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * One dablink needs fixing (I tried to, but had no idea which one you wanted). Giggy (talk) 23:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Support per above. Giggy (talk) 00:28, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose First (and sufficient for an Oppose), this article has too many things that walk and talk like padding. Details about Carmel Lake, about the Vietnam war, etc. are only tangentially related. Second, a quick look at "Special Acts and Resolutions of the State of Connecticut ...1857" reveals some interesting historical info that could be included.. why does the article say a "mild rain" swept away the bridge, but the document above refers to a "great and unusual ice flood" etc. ... Do other sources reveal more info? Apparently the Phillipstown Pike was abandoned for a while... On the whole, I think this article needs more thorough researching and rewriting than can be accomplished during FAC period. It's very unlikely that merely repairing the the few concerns I've mentioned here will induce me to change my !vote. Ling.Nut (talk&mdash;WP:3IAR) 04:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comment. I'll start looking for more information right away. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  13:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I've come up with a little more information about the turnpike, and I removed some extra detail from the recent history section. I copyediting the article somewhat, as well. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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