Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Only Girl (In the World)/archive2


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The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2015.

Only Girl (In the World)

 * Nominator(s): —  ₳aron  21:26, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

This article is about... Rihanna's highly successful (and one of her most in her entire singles discography) singles, "Only Girl (In the World)", which hit either number-one or number-two is nearly every country that it was released it, and achieved platinum or multi-platinum status. Second nomination. I believe that I have addressed concerns in the previous nomination to the best of my capability. — ₳aron  21:26, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Media review from SNUGGUMS
I'll kickstart this and get a checking done first: As for relevance and captioning, the pics of Mariah, Beyoncé, and Gaga don't exactly benefit the article. It also is overkill to have three images all in the same spot. Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * File:Only Girl (In the World).png has an appropriate FUR
 * I will assume good faith with File:Sandy Vee RETOUCHED IMG 9213 FINAL.jpg which is claimed as own work
 * What benefit does File:Rihanna - Only Girl (In the World).ogg provide?
 * File:Mariah Carey 2 by David Shankbone.jpg is properly licensed
 * File:Beyonce - Montreal 2013 (3) crop.jpg is properly licensed
 * File:P1010638 (13737833603).jpg is properly licensed
 * File:Rihannavideo.jpg has an appropriate FUR
 * File:Rihanna, LOUD Tour, Oakland 4.jpg is properly licensed
 * Thanks SNUGGUMS. I've removed the triple image. I can't listen to audio files I don't know which part of the song plays. —  ₳aron  17:08, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The lyrics it contains are "Like I'm the only one that you'll ever love, Like I'm the only one who knows your heart, Only girl in the world, Like I'm the only one that's in command, 'Cause I'm the only one who understands, How to make you feel like a man". Snuggums (talk / edits) 16:57, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay I'll remove it. —  ₳aron  17:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. I'll look through this again within a few days for other aspects. Media all checks out fine now. Snuggums (talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 22:37, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. —  ₳aron  07:58, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Main review from SNUGGUMS
Sorry for not getting to this sooner, Calvin, let's review other aspects.....


 * One DAB link
 * Not done. It doesn't need dabbing. Disambiguation doesn't work, because it's a disambiguation page. Only way to solve it is for me to remove the link, but then someone may not know what it means. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * several dead links
 * Not done. They aren't dead, I bought up the same thing on Peer review/Don't Stop the Music (Rihanna song)/archive1. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * Interesting..... Check links doesn't always function how it should :/ <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Lead
 * "is a song by Barbadian singer Rihanna included on her fifth studio album, Loud"..... from
 * Not done. Personal preference. (I've done it the same as "S&M" which is FA and went through 10 nominations) — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * No need to include Crystal Johnson's nationality, and she should link to Crystal Nicole
 * Not done. Personal preference. (I've done it the same as "S&M" which is FA and went through 10 nominations) — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * Something doesn't feel right about using "lively" in "create lively, up-tempo music"
 * Why not? — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * It might be seen as puffery by some readers <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh well! — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Remove the hyphen from "number-one"
 * Removed all instances of hyphenating number one. (But everything in the See also section has hyphenated article titles?) — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>


 * Concept and development
 * See above note for Crystal Johnson linking
 * Not done. The others aren't referred to by their actual name, either. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * I meant to have Crystal Johnson
 * Her bio name must have been changed recently, because it was "Cristyle". But still, she is credited in the loud booklet as Crystal Johnson. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That's not how she is credited though.
 * "the then untitled project" → "the song"
 * Not done. Not talking about the song, I'm talking about the album. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * My mistake <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Tour" is not part of the title for Last Girl on Earth, and there should be a period after this bit instead of a colon
 * Moved. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>


 * Composition
 * "It lasts for a duration of"..... reads awkwardly
 * I don't think it does. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * I would've give with something like "It is *insert duration* long" <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Read like one and the same to me really lol — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "her previous singles,"..... 2007 song
 * Changed. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * Per MOS:QUOTEMARKS, ′ should be ', and ″ should be "
 * I did CTRL+F pasting them into the search box and it didn't return anything. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * I fixed it here, though will admit it's sometimes hard to detect <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Critical response
 * ""Only Girl (In the World)" garnered a generally positive response from music critics" needs a reference, even if most reviews included are positive.
 * It doesn't, because I go on to include the reviews. Other FAs don't do this. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * Given that citations are used for the sort of thing on album articles, I figured it would also apply to song articles, but it could be worth consulting the Songs WikiProject on the matter <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If it was, then I'm sure FAs would have it. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * "a 'comeback,' despite noting that it was not a comeback single" isn't really needed; I'd include commentary on specific aspects of the song
 * Not really, because other critics say how it's a departure from her previous album's tone, so him saying it's a comeback and the comparisons to "Don't Stop the Music" is all relevant to this comment. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * In that case, it would help to specify that they're referring to the tone <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I do in one review. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * Something tells me that the "accolades" should be in prose rather than table form, and I would include who it lost nominations to
 * It's acceptable to use a table without prose or prose without a table. I chose to use a table. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>


 * Commercial performance
 * This is going to need to include more than just North America and the UK
 * It will be too long to include Europe, too. Also, the song hit number one in pretty much every European country, and was certified platinum everything, so it would just be repetition. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * While you don't necessarily have to go into as much detail as other nations, other nations should at least be mentioned within prose. Otherwise, it seems incomplete, especially since the lead lists nations that aren't included here. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I see what you're saying, but the the other countries in the lead is summary of what's in the rest of the article because the table is there. Commercial performance section is essentially the chart table just in prose form, so it's not as if sourced info isn't in the article. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:13, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No need for Cheryl Cole's nationality
 * Removed. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>


 * Music video
 * CBS shouldn't be italicized
 * Removed italics.
 * Include that Jason Lipshutz is a Billboard reviewer; it doesn't give readers much context on him otherwise
 * Added. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>


 * Live performances and covers
 * Again, no need for nationalities
 * Removed. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * It might help to include commentary on the covers
 * Googled it and couldn't find anything. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>


 * References
 * "Daily News" should read "New York Daily News"
 * "AOL Radio" shouldn't have italics, and isn't really a reliable source to begin with
 * See about note regarding CBS
 * Not sure if "Winter Music Conference" should be italicized
 * Author Mark Edward Nero needs to be included in About.com ref
 * Why doesn't "Broadcast Music" just read Broadcast Music, Inc.?
 * OK! magazine is not reliable, and neither is "Just Jared" (even though that wasn't sourced directly, it's a gossip rag)
 * Why isn't OK! reliable? — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * It's a gossip magazine with a poor reputation for credibility, and is known to often be inaccurate <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It's still a magazine reporting on something. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Capital" should read "Capital FM"
 * "Mercury News" should read San Jose Mercury News
 * "ultratop.be" and "Ultratop 50" should read Ultratop
 * "Irish Recording Music Association" should be Irish Recorded Music Association without italics
 * "dutchcharts.nl" should read "Dutch Charts" or Dutch Top 40
 * Daily Mail (aka Mail Online) and Metro are also not reliable
 * Why not? They are newspapers. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>
 * Poor journalistic reputations, particularly when compared to other UK papers like The Daily Telegraph, The Guardian, The Independent, and The Times <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 03:38, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Still credible and popular newspapers. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * "Hitlistan" should read Sverigetopplistan
 * "swisscharts.com" should read "Swiss Charts" or Swiss Hitparade
 * "Hitlisten" should read Tracklisten
 * "Ultratop & Hung Medien / hitparade.ch" should read Belgian Entertainment Association
 * The "and" should be "&" for Radio & Records
 * Watch for stray text (i.e. one "]" by itself)
 * Done all. Except I can't find the " in the haystack. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:39, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

At this point, I'm going to oppose, sorry. <b style="color:#454545">Snuggums</b> (<b style="color:#454545">talk</b> / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 06:41, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: I've addressed Snuggums' issues, but he doesn't want to continue participation in this nomination per his response to my talkback on his talk page. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  13:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Coordinator comment - This has been open for well over a month and has not attracted any support for promotion, unfortunately. -- Laser brain  (talk)  02:10, 27 May 2015 (UTC) -- Laser brain  (talk)  02:10, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.