Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Open Here/archive1

Open Here

 * Nominator(s): — Hunter Kahn 20:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

This article is about the 2018 album but the English rock band Field Music. It recently reached GA status and I believe it meets all of the FA criteria as well. — Hunter Kahn 20:25, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

SC
I have to say that I'm leaning toward oppose at the moment, given the issues on prose and a few other things.
 * General points
 * As this is an English band, the date format should be 8 July 2019, not July 8, 2019.
 * I've changed all dates in the article to British English. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * There are also some US spellings in there too, which need to be changed.
 * I've changed every instance I've found, and I don't believe I've missed any... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * A few quotes also need to be sorted to keep in line with WP:LQ.
 * I think I've fixed the ones that needed fixing, but if I missed any let me know... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks in places like citation overkill; have a look at WP:CITEBUNDLE and combine one prune the long strings of refs.
 * I've bundled every instance that previously included four citations or more. In a few cases I simply removed a few redundant and unnecessary citations, but in most cases I addressed this by adding a new Notes section. I had started simply bundling them by creating a new citation that listed the multiple sources in each case, but I decided to go this route (with the Notes section) instead because it allowed me to provide the exact context from which I am citing these sources, rather than just listing the sources off. This required a bit more work on my part, but I think is ultimately the most useful for the article and helpful for the reader... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * "utilize"/~s/~d: nowt wrong with "use"/~s/~d
 * I believe I fixed this above when I removed the U.S. spellings... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * IB & lead
 * Genre field includes "indie rock" and "art rock": no supporting citation in the body
 * I've added citations for each of the genres listed in the infobox. The first citation (Pitchfork) covers the first three genres; I didn't use the citation three times but rather put it at the end of the third one, but I can list it after each of the three individual genres if you prefer... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * "occasionally heavy topics": So they are heavy only sometimes? And is a heavy topic one on lead or iron?
 * I replaced the word "heavy" with "serious or cynical"; I kept in "occasionally" because I believe that is still accurate, but let me know if you think that's a problem... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Background
 * Photo caption: "A photo of Peter Brewis": we really don't need "A photo of"
 * Removed that phrase... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * "and a follow-up to their 2016 album Commontime.[1][3][4][5]" Do we need four citations for those nine words?
 * It's just one citation now... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * "In a press release, David Brewis": as this is the background, I would have expected the names of the two bandmembers to have been provided first.
 * Modified this so the two band member names are provided first... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Same press release: "[3][6][7][8]" one press release needs one citation, not four
 * This is just one citation now. There are other instances in the article where I use several citations where I could have used just one. Generally speaking, I didn't see the harm in this, because I feel using multiple citations simply reinforces the accuracy of the cited facts. But if there are other examples where you think I should reduce the citation numbers, I am more than willing to remove them as needed... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
 * "prepackaged" should be "pre-packaged"
 * Fixed. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

I'll be back tomorrow to have a proper look – these are just the bits that caught my eye on a quick flick over the top part of the article. – SchroCat (talk) 21:49, 8 July 2019 (UTC) Image review
 * Thanks very much for your thoughts so far. I'm ready and willing to respond to anything more you have... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 05:20, 9 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Don't use fixed px size
 * Removed. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 17:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Suggest adding alt text
 * Done. I found describing the album cover a bit challenging, so if that alt text needs further work, let me know. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 17:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * FURs for all three non-free clips need to be completed. Additionally, given the length of the original Count_It_Up_by_Field_Music.ogg exceeds the 10% max of WP:SAMPLE, as does Open_Here_by_Field_Music.ogg. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I have uploaded shortened versions of Count It Up and Open Here. (Had to hit refresh on my screen before the new versions replaced the old ones on the article.) I believe they now adhere to the length requirements in WP:SAMPLE. Thanks! — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 17:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Sources review

 * No spotchecks carried out
 * Links to sources all appear to be working, per the external links checker tool
 * Formats:
 * Be consistent in the italicisation of online magazine sources – e.g. The Quietus (ref 19), Stereogum (42 & 43) and maybe others are italicised, while musicOMH (14, 30) is not.
 * I have gone through and italicized all the appropriate sources so I believe there is consistency now. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 15:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Be consistent about stating language for foreign sources (see 16, 17, 48 etc)
 * I have added languages to the non-English sources you pointed out. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 15:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Brianboulton (talk) 15:18, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Quality and reliability: The chosen sources appear to meet the required quality/reliability criteria.
 * Thanks for your sources review! — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 15:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Coordinator notes
I've added this to the Urgents list, but after being open for several weeks without any support for promotion, it may have to be archived soon. -- Laser brain  (talk)  11:25, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I’m going to give this some feedback within the next day. <i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Toa</i> <i style="color: green; font-family: Mistral;">Nidhiki05</i> 14:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Coordinator comment - This has been open for well over a month without any declaration of support for promotion, and doesn't seem to be heading in the right direction at present even with a possible pending review. Therefore, I will be archiving it shortly and it may be re-nominated after the customary two-week waiting period. In the mean time, please action feedback as appropriate. -- Laser brain  (talk)  12:37, 13 August 2019 (UTC) -- Laser brain  (talk)  12:37, 13 August 2019 (UTC)