Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Over the Edge (1999)


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 04:21, 31 December 2008.

Over the Edge (1999)

 * Nominator(s): SRX

I'm nominating this article for featured article because after extensive work to get the article to comply with WP:PLOT, WP:FICTION, and WP:IN-U, and after a lengthy peer review, I believe this article now meets the FA criteria. In addition, unlike other pro wrestling articles, this is unique because it involves a death of a wrestler at the event. Any comments, however, will be addressed. SRX 22:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note to source checker - http://www.hoffco-inc.com/wwe/ppv/ppv/ote99.html is not reliable as a whole, but in this case, the source is verifying the on-screen talent, which they credit to videos of the event on the internet, in which the talent is visible and announced at the event.--SRX 22:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Image review: Please complete an template for Image:Bradshaw.jpg. All other images appear to be fine. --Moni3 (talk) 01:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I added that the information template to the mentioned image. Thanks.--SRX 01:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments - A wrestling PPV article from when I actually watched wrestling! That was a long time ago. For those who don't know, Owen Hart's death become a national story and led to widespread criticism of the then-WWF. Therefore, this has more going on than most articles of this type. I did offer two rounds of comments at a peer review, so I don't know how much more I can find in this review, but that's never stopped me before. That's it from me for now. I'll come back for further reviewing at a later time.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 19:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "From the six scheduled bouts on the undercard, two received more promotion." One of the other active wrestling FACs puts this as "### received more promotion than the others", which I think is an improvement.
 * I improved it.--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Background: second sentence of the section is huge, and runs on quite noticeably: "For three months before the event, several WWF professional wrestling matches and background stories were played out on WWF programming, Raw is War, Smackdown (no exclamation point?), and Sunday Night Heat, to create feuds between various wrestlers, casting them as villians and heroes."
 * I split them.--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comma after "WWE's previous pay-per-view event".
 * Comma added.--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "the daughter of the WWF Chairman Vince McMahon." Remove second the.
 * Removed.--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "The Undertaker's price for Stephanie's return was the control of the wrestling organization." I don't like the first "the". Can another word be substituted?
 * I removed it and replaced "of" with "over."--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Real names needed for the Road Dogg and Val Venis.
 * Names added.--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Event: "In the final contest, Vince McMahon (second time linked) defeated Mildeon (Dennis Knight) in a singles match that ended in "No Contest". If it was a No Contest, how did McMahon win?
 * Removed link, fixed statement.--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--SRX 23:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "Kane then pinned Henry in order to retain the WWE Tag Team Title.


 * Removed suggested part.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "Holly and Snow began their bout in the ring but were scripted..." This sentence goes on for a while. Can it be chopped it two?


 * I cut it.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Main matches: "and as a result, were counted out." → "and were counted out as a result."


 * Reworded.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Real name needed for Chyna.


 * No because she was best known as Chyna per WP:COMMONNAME and she legally changed it to Chyna recently.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Change comma after "The referee disqualified Triple H for this action" to a semi-colon?


 * Done.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Owen Hart accident: Spell out WCW, and perhaps give the real name of Sting.


 * Done.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Aftermath: "which led to a match at SummerSlam (1999)...". I recommend piping the link here to remove the 1999 in parenthesis.


 * Done.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The printed references have page numbers in pp. for plural, when they should be p. for singular in most cases. For the one that isn't, the page range needs an en dash. Also place the Calgary Sun in italics in each of the references.


 * Done.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's all from me.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 00:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Once again, thanks.--SRX 01:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments -
 * You've mixed using the Template:Citation with the templates that start with Cite such as Template:Cite journal or Template:Cite news. They shouldn't be mixed per WP:CITE.
 * http://www.wwe.com/shows/summerslam07/history/1999/ deadlinks
 * Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I converted the citation templates to the cite news templates. In addition, I updated the deadlink.--SRX 16:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Support - I think this meets the standards, and is unique to boot. One more thing from this image novice: the poster needs to state the copyright holder (WWF). Placing it next to the source should be sufficient.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 23:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The Copyright was added.--SRX 17:33, 21 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Support - I made a few changes to the prose; hopefully I didn't change the meaning of anything. After a full review, I feel the article meets the criteria. Although I am usually a tad bored with sports article, this was a rather interesting (albeit unfortunate) read. –Juliancolton Happy Holidays 03:24, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the support, and no your changes didn't change the meaning of anything :)--SRX 00:20, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. Why is it necessary to tag 12 of the 13 statements in the infobox with a ref. 1? Consider providing a broad source for this type of info in the main text, just once if possible. Tony  (talk)  15:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Support. A few quibbles:
 * "implemented into future games"—"integrated into" or "implemented in".
 * "a significant amount of lighting effects"—"number of".
 * "were also added"—removed "also".
 * "considered Lost Coast to have system requirements that were very high." Why not "considered Lost Coast to have very demanding system requirements." Tony   (talk)  15:40, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Are these comments referring to this article because what you are stating does not match the current revision, could these comments may have been added to this FAC by accident?--SRX 18:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * SRX, I think (actually, I know) that these comments are intended for Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Half-Life 2: Lost Coast above. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I have copied the comments into the correct FAC. I think that you can delete them without breaching etiquette guidelines, although you might ask Sandy or Tony first. Dabomb87 (talk) 19:01, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for moving the comments, Dabomb. SRX is trying to steal our Supports :P Gary King  ( talk ) 19:06, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * =D I don't need your supports =p But thanks for making that clear, I will ask Sandy.--SRX 19:23, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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