Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ozzie Smith/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 00:05, 31 March 2008.

Ozzie Smith
Self-nominator; I'm nominating this article for featured article status because I've worked on it since September 2007 and believe that it now meets the Featured Article requirements. Monowi (talk) 03:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - please delete the underlining in the references, for the respect to the manual of style. MOJSKA   666  (msg) 12:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comment; the issue has now been resolved. Monowi (talk) 03:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Comments


 * Likewise http://www.baseball-reference.com/? I tried to click on their "About Sports Reference" page but it was a dead link.
 * I believe the link you're looking for is located here: . This is another website that editors of WikiProject Baseball encourage the utilization of. In the Featured Article Lee Smith (baseball), pages on this website are cited as references on more than five separate occasions. Technically, the publisher of this reference website is Sports Reference, LLC, so I will amend the references in Ozzie's article to reflect this right away. Monowi (talk) 18:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Likewise http://www.baseball-almanac.com/?
 * Baseball almanac is an resource that is suggested for use by WikiProject Baseball under their "Resources" section. The website has been utilized in a similar article, the Featured Article Lee Smith (baseball) (references #37 & #38 on that particular article). Monowi (talk) 03:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry to be totally unclued with baseball fandom, but I'm not sure about the reliablity of this site http://www.thebaseballcube.com/
 * The Baseball Cube is another resource recommended by WikiProject Baseball editors in their "Resources" section. Information about the site, the data it uses, and its history can be found here: . If you still have concerns about the reliability of the Baseball Cube, please comment here again, & I will gladly use info from an alternative site, like Baseball-reference.com, in it's place. Monowi (talk) 19:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * All other links checked out fine. I'm sure some/most of the sites I'm questioning above are fine, I am not exactly clued into baseball websites. Better to ask! Ealdgyth - Talk 13:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments; they have been extremely helpful in polishing the References section! Monowi (talk) 20:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Not really time to do a full review so I'm just going to look at the lead for now.
 * Comments
 * Long and yet only two paragraphs.
 * Mentions that he became a HoF in 2002 twice.
 * "Over the course of his 19-year career Smith accumulated some impressive offensive statistics as well" "impressive" is POV and what does "as well" mean?
 * Changed the wording of that sentence to remove POV material and the words "as well." Monowi (talk) 06:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "Major League Baseball shortstop" something like "player who primarily played shortstop" would be better.
 * According to Ozzie's fielding statistics I found here, Ozzie never appeared in a Major League game at any other defensive position aside from shortstop. Therefore, I feel the change in the wording you are proposing would be less accurate than what is currently included in the article. Monowi (talk) 06:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "won 13 consecutive Gold Glove Awards" a non-exspert will not understand the significance of this.
 * Explained the significance of the Gold Glove by changing the second sentence of the intro to read,"Nicknamed "The Wizard of Oz", he is widely recognized as one of the greatest defensive players in baseball history, winning the Gold Glove Award for defensive excellence at shortstop for a span of 13 consecutive seasons." Do you think this is adequate explanation? Monowi (talk) 06:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * A lot of stuff not really notable enough for the lead.
 * Is there anything in particular you could point out? Monowi (talk) 06:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * And yet no mention of some thing with I think are lead worthy, such as his number being retired, hosting TWIB and his base sealing ability.
 * I have now added both of these info bits into the introduction. Monowi (talk) 06:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Buc (talk) 20:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Support, tentatively. I'll go take another look through and let you know what I find, I just snow these fail within two weeks without at least one person supporting. Wizardman  17:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
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