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Paul Hunter

 * Nominator(s):  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:59, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

This article is about one of the freshest snooker players who ever lived, who should have been a world champion before his untimely death. Three times a winner of the Masters the event's trophy was eventually named in his honour, alongside a series of tournaments. Hunter was almost universally beloved by all accounts. I do hope you enjoy reading about a very important player. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 17:59, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Image review


 * The lead image needs a stronger FUR. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:52, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk
, all done, great job! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:37, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
 * - the wikilink should go into England too: Leeds, England
 * We don't generally link to major well known cities and countries.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:19, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - false title
 * I'd never heard of this before. I shall see if I can remember this.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * "Euan Henderson" is a disambig link
 * Fixed  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - 2003-2004 should use an endash (for copying: –)
 * I've used a script to fix these.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - not a snooker expert, but this doesn't sound grammatically correct; do you mean, "he made the highest break in his career"?
 * Indeed.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - he intended to devote?
 * Changed.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Wl pallbearer
 * Linked.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - false title
 * Changed.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - I suggest putting "the memoir" before the title, or some other descriptor
 * Added  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - false title
 * Done  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * - "The" Paul Hunter Foundation?
 * Done  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Nb 4: a space is missing before the years
 * Done  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Nb 7: - "ran" under different names
 * Done  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Do the nbs need citations?
 * Possibly, I'd suggest it's something that is cited from the rest of the table. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * All the years in the nbs need to use endashes (–)
 * Done  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The book under "Further reading" should have "none" under its ref parameter
 * Done  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Lee Vilenski? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 23:37, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay, I have been a bit out of action. I have made some replies.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Support - no worries, great work. If you get some extra time, would appreciate any comments at this FAC- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:43, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments by HurricaneHiggins
Lead:


 * "A prolific break-builder, he made 114 century breaks..." Hunter played professionally for 11 seasons, making only 114 career centuries, amounting to just over 10 centuries per season on average. I don't think this can legitimately be described as "prolific" break-building.

Early career (1995–2000):


 * "His form that season elevated him to 12th in the 1999–2000 world rankings resulting in automatic qualification into the final stages of ranking tournaments for the first time, a position he retained for the 2000–01 season." It might be easier to note how many consecutive seasons Hunter spent within the top 16. Also he didn't retain 12th position in the rankings for two consecutive seasons, from what I can tell, so the wording of this sentence is misleading.


 * "For 1998, he was named the Snooker Writers Association's Young Player of the Year, still playing as a teenager." This is potentially confusing because Hunter turned 20 in October 1998; the previous sentence mentions his performance at the 1998 UK Championship, which took place when he was no longer a teenager. I would remove "still playing as a teenager" from this sentence.

Masters champion (2001–2004):


 * "After winning the championship, Hunter claimed he had sex with his girlfriend when he trailed 2–6, which had caused him to play significantly better." Readers who don't know the history of this match may think this was just a random girlfriend. She should be identified here as his future wife Lindsey Fell. This Guardian piece says she was then his fiancée: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2006/oct/10/snooker.simonburnton We could also note that the encounter happened in their hotel room between sessions.


 * "The 2002 World Snooker Championship had Hunter lose to Quinten Hann. The 2002 British Open had Hunter defeat Ian McCulloch 9–4 in the final to win his third ranking event championship." The word "had" in these sentences feels off. I'd replace it with "saw" or otherwise rephrase. It might also be useful to note at which stage of the 2002 World Championship he lost to Hann.


 * "He trailed Ronnie O'Sullivan in the final throughout the entire match, being behind 1–6, 2–7, 6–8 and 7–9. However, Hunter won the final three frames to win the match. Making five century breaks in the match, the match was voted as one of the best matches of all time by Eurosport in 2020." Some grammatical issues here. I'd suggest the following revision: "He trailed Ronnie O'Sullivan 1–6, 2–7, 6–8 and 7–9 in the final, but won the last three frames for a 10–9 victory, making five century breaks in the final. In 2020, Eurosport voted the match one of the best of all time."


 * "He reached the second round of the 2004 World Snooker Championship, where he lost 12–13 against Matthew Stevens, despite leading 10–6 and 12–10 at various stages of the match." Suggest deleting "at various stages of the match" because the specific stages are identified.

It may also be relevant to note in the Personal Life section that Hunter disinherited his father Alan on his deathbed. https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/legal-dispute-after-beckham-of-the-baize-snooker-ace-cuts-father-out-of-his-will-6656350.html

That's it! HurricaneHiggins (talk) 12:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * , nudge. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been beyond unavailable for this. Shall take a look.  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 14:34, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * , this is in imminent danger of being archived due to lack of response. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:20, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Gog the Mild (talk) 19:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC)