Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Paul Kagame/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by User:Ian Rose 10:01, 23 June 2013 (UTC).

Paul Kagame

 * Nominator(s): &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I have been working on this over the past few months, and it recently passed the good article nomination at Talk:Paul Kagame/GA1 after some minor points were addressed there. The user who did the review there, User:Lemurbaby felt that it may already be good enough for FAC, hence I'm putting it up here and look forward to the feedback from that.

Incidentally, there is one slightly short subsection at the moment, "Presidency -> China" which I intend to fill out a bit in the next week, so please comment and review on the rest of it and I'll get that in shortly. Thanks! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Support. I am delighted to see that Amakuru has brought another Africa-related article to FAC. At his request, here are some comments on the article's prose. I reviewed the article's prose. The details of the review have been moved to the talk page to avoid clutter. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 16:45, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

 Lean to Support. As the GA reviewer, I applied FA standards and Amakuru satisfied them. There are just two points I'd like to see addressed:
 * Expansion of the China section, with possible inclusion of other countries
 * I see this point has been addressed nicely. Lemurbaby (talk) 11:40, 1 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Building on that, maybe shifting that paragraph entirely to look more broadly at Kagame's aim to get away from traditional development aid and shift toward economic partnerships, as illustrated by the Agaciro fund launched last year.
 * Great work on this as well. My comments have been adequately addressed.

Great work bringing Rwandan topics to Wikipedia - thank you! Lemurbaby (talk) 04:26, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Image check - all OK (OTRS, own work, Flickr, USGov), sources and authors provided. Just 1 minor point:
 * File:GahingaMuhabura.png - (image replaced) added info template, please double-check. As the file has no EXIF-data, could you add a date of creation and/or other details of creation?
 * Fixed - Looking into it I think this is probably a physical printed photo that I scanned in around 2006. I don't have the original or a creation date though so have replaced the image in the article with an alternative. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 18:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * File:Paul_Kagame_with_Obamas_Cropped.jpg - could use Commons category (not required for FA, just as info). GermanJoe (talk) 12:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Done &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 18:00, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Comments. Just a few comments, not a complete review:
 * "Kagame previously served as Vice President and Minister of Defence from 1994 to 2000, and was considered Rwanda's de facto leader during that time despite not yet being the president.": Just a suggestion: Kagame was considered Rwanda's de facto leader when he served as Vice President and Minister of Defence from 1994 to 2000.
 * Done - I've included your wording, but also included an extra line about him commanding the rebel force that ended the genocide. Looking at Richard Nixon it seems the opening paragraph can contain facts otherwise dealt with within the lead, just to provide the most succinct summary possible for those who don't read any further! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:24, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * "The Rwandan and Ugandan backed rebels": The Rwandan- and Ugandan-backed rebels; or, Backed by Rwanda and Uganda, the rebels ...
 * Done - I've gone with the former. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * "continent wide conflict": continent-wide conflict
 * Done &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * "north east": In BritEng, we're seeing "north-east" more often
 * Done &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * "well connected Tutsi exile": well-connected Tutsi exile
 * Done &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * "connections which would prove useful": restrictive, so: connections that would prove useful. - Dank (push to talk) 15:26, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Done &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Comment - there are some minor bugs with broken harvard citations: Ucucha's tool [HarvErrors] is a very useful script for Wiki editors to detect such problems. After installation it highlights all inconsistent harvard citations with a red error message. GermanJoe (talk) 18:27, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note "Kagame 2009" does not have a reference with the same ref name.
 * Reference "Government of Rwanda (2009)" does not have a note using it.
 * Reference "IRIN (V) (2002-04-22)" does not have a note using it.
 * Done OK thanks for the tip. The above three are now dealt with. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 20:12, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Comments. Overall this article seems deserving of FA to me, it's extremely comprehensive and well-researched. Just a few comments:
 * Bush war section: "Museveni disputed the result, so he and his followers withdrew from the new Ugandan government." seems like the two are seperate actions- suggest "Museveni disputed the result, and he and his followers withdrew from the new government in protest."
 * Done - I have changed it to use your wording. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Same section: "Kagame and Rwigyema joined the NRA, primarily to ease conditions for Rwandan refugees persecuted by Obote." the sentence just before also states that Kagame and Rwigyema joined the NRA, so having a comma in this sentence sounds repetitive... without the comma, though, it's solid.
 * Done &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, is there any wikilink to the 1985 Ugandan coup mentioned?
 * Done It doesn't seem to have an article at present, but it clearly should, hence I have changed this to a redlink. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Rwandan Genocide section:


 * "The RPF troops stationed in the national parliament building began fighting during the night after being attacked"... who attacked them and what night? Seems like that explanation should precede the fact that they began fighting.
 * Changed - I've now gone with "The next day, the Rwandan government forces attacked the national parliament building from several directions, but the RPF troops stationed there sucessfully fought back" - how's that? It's not actually clear from the source whether the fighting began on night of seventh or day of eighth, but it's on the eighth that the matter is mentioned. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 21:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Refugee crisis and insurgency:


 * "Kagame's first move was to support a rebellion against Zaire" -- how exactly did he support it? troop support/arms/money? Should be an easy add.
 * Done &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 17:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * And then just a few comments about the references:

All in all though, this doesn't seem to be missing much at all. Very good work. Importemps (talk) 13:02, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * A few of the New Times sources are a little off... "Mukabaramba calpaigns in Kimisagara" just leads to the homepage, and "Kagame calls for increased efforts to devt." leads to a different article. Probably that site's fault and not yours, just pointing it out.
 * Done - I assumed it was the site's fault but unfortunately the second one at least was probably my fault - I copied the ref template from elsewhere and forgot to change the URL... &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 21:46, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, there are three french articles that are labled as (in French), which works, but there's also an fr tag that's more official looking.
 * Done - it looks like you've done this yourself already. &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 21:46, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 21:46, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Support all the issues I had were well addressed... this article is extremely comprehensive and I think it treats a potentially controversial figure very objectively, which is never easy. Deserves FA, good work. Importemps (talk) 14:44, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Ian Rose (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
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