Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Persoonia lanceolata/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 17:13, 16 November 2011.

Persoonia lanceolata

 * Nominator(s): Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured article because I think I have scoured everything I possibly can for this plant, and anything of note is now here (and it's a fairly short article). I promise to be prompt in replying. I love these plants as they are very green. Yes this is a wikicup nomination...so have at it (PS: Note that the genus is named after a mycologist...but this is a member of the proteaceae, two of my favourite topics :)) .Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Comments
 * Ref 6; Knight, Joseph contains a bare url and an wiki link with only one [] on either side.
 * fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The page no in ref 18 is bolded, while none of the other page numbers are bolded. Wtf? Why do you hate wiki?
 * someone stole the page numbers.....repatriated now Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Ref 7 needs to be reformatted.
 * done Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * These are small things. Have read the page today and not seen anything otherwise that I cannot fix myself. Ceoil (talk) 13:55, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Spotchecks completed on 3 sources; no copy vio or close pharaphrasing; sources back claims. Ceoil (talk) 19:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Support on the basis of good sourcing, the article is well written, seems to be comprenhsive, and all images all free. (note I went through it in detail yesterday, before the nom). Ceoil (talk) 13:08, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Source review - spotchecks not done, after e/c with Ceoil. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:57, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * FN 2: date?
 * tricky as autogenerated to today's date on website. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Be consistent in whether you provide locations for publishers. If you do decide to include them, be consistent in what is and is not abbreviated
 * FN 6, 7: formatting
 * see above Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Check for minor inconsistencies like doubled periods
 * FN 13: duplication
 * FN 14: include both authors?
 * combined refs - only a few pages anyway Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:58, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * FN 18: page numbers. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:57, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * dunno how 18's pagenumbers didn't get there, fixed now Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Link check - no DAB-links, no dead external links, 2 minor wikilinks fixed. GermanJoe (talk) 15:33, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Support with comments  Usual high standard from a regular, just a few niggles  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:05, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please check my edits
 * all fine Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In my browser, the image for "Description" is displacing the heading below, is it possible to improve the appearance?
 * this is tricky, and no one solution will be good in all browsers. I did put the rangemap in the taxobox, which might lengthen the description section a tad. Musing..... Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:19, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * appear in summer and autumn followed by  &mdash; comma after autumn?
 * yeah, comma helps and duly added Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:48, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ''the lanceolata group &mdash; italics?
 * double-checked. Yes italics Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The annual rainfall of the area it occurs in the Sydney Basin is 900–1,400 mm (35–55 in), and it ranges from sea level... &mdash; I don't like this, reads as if it's the rain that's ranging, which it probably does, can you tweak?
 * (a) rejigged the range bit to beginning, and (b) it is correct in that the rainfall where it occurs is 900-1400mm. There are other parts of the Sydney Basin which are dryer. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The layout's not a big deal, everything else OK  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  11:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Comments from J Milburn-
 * "the seed are spread" Singular/plural?
 * oops, plural, fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "Andrews also named P. latifolia from plants" Odd phrase
 * me sloppy. overfamiliar with descriptions. reworded Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * In the map caption, could you specify what's being shown? As someone not from Australia, I could only guess the territory.
 * As a native New South Welshman I am mortally offended you couldn't recognise the premier Aussie state (sigh)...now named Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Capitalise "lance-leaf geebung" in the taxobox? Also, there's no mention of the common name outside the lead/taxobox
 * name added to taxonomy section, and ref removed from lead, and capp'ed in taxobox Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "Persoonia lanceolata is described as auxotelic" Abbreviate binomial?
 * abbreviated Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "0.5 cm (0.20 in)" One sigfig to two sigfigs
 * one sigfigged Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "On 0.5 cm (0.20 in) stalks, the flowers may reach 1 cm (0.39 in) in dimensions, and are typical for the genus." Ref?
 * got it now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "Animals can convey seed for one or two kilometres from where they have fead."
 * oops, fixed now Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "Filiglossa bees of the same genus also feed only on Persoonia flowers but do not appear to be effective pollinators." Same genus as what? Surely, Filiglossa is the genus?
 * Filiglossa is subgenus within Leioproctus - better (?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "European honeybee (Apis mellifera)" For consistency, it should be the common names which are linked
 * streamlined Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * In the ecology section, don't be scared of redlinks. All these species, ideally, will eventually have articles, so redlinks are a good thing.
 * duly redlinked Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "by sandmining" What's that? Link?
 * linked now Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:54, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * "hardy to moderate frosts and dry spells" Unclear
 *  "tolerates" much less jargony and essentially synonymous. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Can we have a subcat of Category:Plants by year of formal description added?
 * done Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Are the drupes edible? Have they or any other part of the plant ever seen use by humans, other than horticultural uses?
 * Yes the fruit of most if not all species are edible, and were consumed by aborigines. I have not found a specific reference to lanceolata though but might put a general sentence in. found two refs for this species being edible. The foliage of many species was used as decoration, but haven't seen a specific reference for this species. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Generally a great article- not super-long, but that's obviously not a problem. I'm sure I'll be happy to support once these issues are resolved. J Milburn (talk) 23:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Support, unless someone else raises any legitimate issues. The article's looking fantastic. J Milburn (talk) 21:58, 2 November 2011 (UTC)


 *  Comment Support – "Within the genus Persoonia, Persoonia lanceolata belongs to the lanceolata group of a 58 closely related species." The "a" should be removed from this. Other than that the writing looks good.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 15:20, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
 * got it, how'd I miss that one......... Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's easier than you think, isn't it? That's the only complaint I had about the article, so I moved to support up there. Nice work.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 16:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Question — Can you add accessdates for refs 1, 5, 6, 7, 11, 13, 14, 15, 18, and 19? HurricaneFan25  &#124;  talk  22:05, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The latest consensus is to add accessdates to those which are web only, not published books or journal articles. Those are done. The template didn't have a slot for it so have slotted it in afterwards. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Image review All images have appropriate licences and captions  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I went out for a bushwalk today and got this and this to illustrate the drupes - I was chuffed with the fill-in flash on one but maybe the other is better...Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * ''PS: Also got a photo of the trunk today, but I am not sure I can fit it in the article....? Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to adjust the lead (and body if necessary) for WP:SEASON? I know it's not always doable ... Sandy Georgia (Talk) 18:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Does that help? Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It does, but could you deal with spring and any other occurrences as well? Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 21:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, missed that. fixed now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


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